Flight Plan that has no discontinuity

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I am flying the Fenix A320.
After watching many videos and trying multiple times, there has always been a discontinuity that I cannot delete. That includes Simbiref
Does anyone have a flight plan they could share with me without discontinuity?

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As far as I remember when having Simbrief generate a flight plan among the major airports there I didn’t find a discontinuity. Pick for example EDDF to EDDM.

I am suspecting you are you are programming it not correctly. Have you selected your SIDS and STARS?

Maybe post a screenshot.

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I asked for a flight plan that someone has that works so I could see what I might be doing wrong.

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I may be misunderstanding the issue / ask, but are you saying that a flight plan with a discontinuity “doesn’t work”?

Discontinuities are quite common / normal.

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Personal Comments

Discontinuities can sometimes mean manual legs or segments requiring ATC radar vectors by a live operator.

The easiest way to rectify this is to build your own route using Direct To wherever possible. That ensures none of those legs are manual or require ATC intervention/positive control.

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Or you can simply vector yourself in Heading Mode to create a nice angle to the glideslope. Also helps if you’re too high on the descent profile. If you want to delete a disco, you must first delete the ‘manual’ above it from the mcdu/fms.

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I manually entered the flight plan, and that worked.

I will do that from now on.

Thanks for the help, everyone.

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It’s not that entering it manually “worked” as nothing was broken, as we’ve stated above, discontinuities are part of real world flying where the departure needs vectors to the en route portion, or from arrival to approach.

Sure, you can just remove these and or enter it manually and have everything join up and jus let the plane fly itself around, but that is not real world.

Maybe that’s not what you’re after but just wanted to reiterate that discontinuities are real and valid. Not broken.

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I have a single-engine pilot’s license. When I fly a Cessna 182 and enter a flight plan into the Gramin, there are no problems. Maybe I expect the same from an A320.

But the main thing is I got it to work.

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Nothing against to your procedure with manual set,

but then good luck with some quite long flight to fill FPL. As I said some time before, I simply curious how many bad FPLs are available in Simbrief as data bank. Looks like people don’t care what is really inside and then this is problem. Really I don’t use Simbrief due that bad/wrong FPLs repository, best is do FPLs by yourself, another good planner with save option to msfs type is required. If you want use Simbrief, ok but you need then do some corrections as you mentioned.

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Again: A disco is not a bug or a problem. It’s a must for ATC to line up aircraft for appr with enough spacing. Especially for busy airports. These STARs are not created to give simmers a lazy auto-descent towards the FAF, with a nice angle included. You’ll find manual-disco’s also in the Garmin’s at many airports. As there should be.

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I fly from Whidbey Island, Washington, to Hillsboro, Oregon, two to three times a month, so I do not have disco problems.

I was surprised that entering a flight plan in a Jet was more complicated than just entering the flight and flying.

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Been using Simbrief from the beginning and it injects the FP correctly. If one is concerned about the realism of the FP, Simbrief shows if the generated plan is based on a IRL FP eg by Eurocontrol. And yes there might be discos eg some of the transitions into EDDM are intended for ATC to give vectors for separation. However there are also many FPs (from Simbrief) wo discos. At this point I must assume user error. If you like help post a screenshot of the MCDU of you Simbrief injected FP.

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Okay, I take your point, and it is a good one.

Again, I am a single-engine pilot. I am 76 years old, started flying when I was 26. I know how to do flight plans, but not for heavy aircraft. Saying that I have to learn how flight plans differ for heavy aircraft.

Most of my flying is with VFR, when I started to fly the 172, now the 182, I use the Garmin which is ezpz.

It would be nice if there were a way to know why the disco was there, so you would have some idea how to fix it.

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Fair enough.

Could you post a screenshot of the MCDU with the Simbrief flight plan and the disco? A picture says more than 


It makes it easier to give input / help.

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I watched two videos covering disco, and I think I got it.

Thank you for being so helpful.

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I have never used a flightplan from Simbrief that did NOT have a discontinuity that I can recall, either PMDG or Fenix.