When I load a Sim Brief FP the sim doesn’t display the arrival runway. When I expand the route graphic which in this case has a arrival at KATL Runway 9L the graphic does show a route landing at 9L.
Should I enter 9L in the approach box?
Your Simbrief plan doesn’t carry all of your information into MSFS. You have to choose your arrival, and then your approach. For example, I fly from Jackson, MS (KJAN) to Atlanta (KATL) on a regular basis. My flight plan is this:
MEI DUCCK ORRKK GNDLF2
ORRKK is the transition waypoint for the GNDLF2 arrival procedure into KATL. In the World Screen of MSFS you pick your Arrival Procedure (STAR - Standard Terminal Arrival Procedure) and follow that with the Approach Procedure (ILS 09R). If you read your whole briefing package, in the weather NOTAMs for your arrival it will usually tell you about which runways are being used for what. At Atlanta, the primary Arrival runway is 9R, with Departures on 9L. Runway 8R is for Departures, with 8L for arrivals. And if you notice, all Arrivals are on the runways furthest from the terminals. This is a safety feature that keeps an arriving aircraft from crashing into the Terminals. I am available for flight planning questions. I did some of this for real when I was in the Navy, flying in the P-3c Orions.
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I think I’ve figured out whats happening, when you initially load the plan from sim brief the aircraft follows the correct route
, However once you add the approach runway it changes the flight plan from the one you loaded I don’t see how this could work properly.
That’s the problem. MSFS is changing your flight plan, and it shouldn’t be. When you add your approach, it shouldn’t change your flight plan. The Approach phase is simply the final leg of your Arrival Procedure. However, after you add your approach and MSFS changes your plan, you can change it back manually right there on the World Screen by deleting the waypoints that MSFS placed into your plan ad re-inserting your original waypoints.
Thank You, this has to fixed properly and re posted under the correct problem statement. I’ll work on that later today and also enter a issue in Zendesk.
It also doesn’t matter which runway you choose, as ATC will very likely send you elsewhere anyway. Even if I manually enter the arrival runway & STAR in the FMC, ATC will completely ignore it.
I think the issues with Sim Brief & Navigraph are twofold. First, neither of them bring in the arrival runway, and second, the entire plan changes if you manually input the arrival runway.
I would argue this is a Sim Brief problem, in it is not formatting the FP correctly for MSFS to be able to load the approach, if it were you won’t need to change it.
remember is it NOT for MSFS to conform to Sim Brief et al, but Sim Brief etc to conform to MSFS.
I have a thread up there also, TY for all the input
I included all the info in the Navigraph thread. I don’t have anything posted in Sim Brief
yep - msfs basically ignores the simbrief flightplan if you assign the approach/star in the world map. i’ve worked around this by adding the approach phase in the plane’s garmin/mcdu instead before takeoff or during flight. also i basically just ignore ATC when it comes to the final leg/appoach phase. they almost always assign you an approach too late anyways that you have to turn back and/or you have to edit/skip waypoints.
ATC gives you runway and approach usually based on wind direction. If you predict that in your flight plan, ATC doesn’t change your approach and runway most of the time.
Given that MSFS doesn’t load approach and runway, even when reading the .pln files it created itself, I’m sure it’s either a bug, or just not meant to be part of the .pln files.
But I agree that the world map should never change your imported waypoints.
I’ve never had ATC disregard my flight plan and STAR/APPR. I do, however, always plan my flights utilizing real-world live weather. I’ve got an app on my phone called Aeroweather that allows me to check the METAR anywhere in the world. It’s a great APP - just not free.