Ant’s Tiger Moth was way under priced for what we got…. That was a product that could easily have justified at least twice the asking price.
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Agreed but for a DH83 is hard to avoid the comparison.
Sounds like some clever modders could significantly improve it with liveries and sound swap/FTSim+ type of change?
It does look good to me and I’ll probably be grabbing this next time I’m on the sim.
I still need to get the Goliath I promised I would lol, but this has more instant appeal to me (visually).
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This is definitely a step above the Goliath in my experience. I really appreciate Red Wings bringing such unique addons to the sim, but they are definitely near the bottom of the totem-pole when it comes to visuals.
Next time I’m in sim I want to create some camera views from the passenger cabin. There’s actually one by default, but it’s basically right on the other side of the portal window from the cockpit. It’d be neat to have some presets from the seats, especially facing backwards. Not often you get that experience in any aircraft.
True! In an alternate universe somewhere, there is probably a passenger jet aircraft company called Airtrain where that’s their thing 
2 facing forwards < table > 2 facing backwards.
Could have just sampled sounds from a DH.82, sounds like an excuse to me.
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I noticed this too. I am wondering if it’s possible to add colliders (or whatever the term would be) for the wingtips. I’ve noticed a few other addons do this, too. It’s like the wings aren’t physical objects as far as contact points.
Developer here. Many thanks for all the feedback, always appreciated. Sounds are an interesting topic. Having flown a real Tiger Moth a couple of times (when I had my own real little aircraft, it was actually parked behind one in the hangar), same engine as the Fox, IMO the engine sounds are pretty much as they are. Props make more difference in sound to me (like with a Texan/Harvard), but here I don’t think I could tell. The model sounds could use a little more putt-putt-putt at idle or low RPM, but otherwise I couldn’t tell the difference.Where it comes to sound, there’s always a lot of subjectivity! Will definitely look into the contact points for the wingtips, thanks for that. As for the sounds being absent in one model, will look into that, too - all files are present, and it didn’t turn up in our or MSFS’s testing, but software is software and there’s always something… 
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Incidentally, if you haven’t seen it, there’s a great video on flying the real Fox Moth here: https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/0_2kPloPljg
If you’ve had any trouble accessing the Manual, you can download it for free from here: http://www.flight-replicas.com/Downloads.htm
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Quick question, is it just me or does anymore else have a problem with the P8 compass? The outer ring moves, but not the “T” - and I cannot seem to find a click spot for the arresting pin for the life of me. Did anyone else have similar issues and has figured them out by now?
Also, it seems mirrored - the t-section that should point north, points south for me?
Any input will be much appreciated.
EDIT: maybe I should mention I am on the legacy cockpit interaction option. Looking at the manual it seems the arresting pin is reachable with the LOCK option. I do not use that, though, so hopefully there is a way to get there without it.
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I’ve been meaning to email you but as this isn’t so much a support thing as a question: What is the difference between the standard and modified variants? I didn’t find anything in the manual about it, they seem to have the same performance, and at first glance nothing looked different in the cockpit to me.
Just did a test flight and you’re right. The compass is reversed. I’m using Lock mode and the only thing you can move is the heading, not the T.
Alright, thank you for the confirmation. I haven’t completely lost it yet then.
And even in lock mode you are unable to switch the arresting pin?
Something seems off there then.
Maybe @MandatedMf1 can look into it.
By the way - aside from the compass issue I do really like the “pregnant moth”. Feels good to fly and I can live with the C152 sounds in this case.
In lock mode holding down the needle doesn’t give me any other click options. All I can do is scroll the heading right and left with the scroll wheel or holding and dragging. In the manual where it says “Hold (left click) to lock” essentially just means that while holding the mouse button down, moving the mouse left and right acts the same as a the scroll wheel.
I don’t mean to sound overly critical as the price was fair for this, but this implementation of the P8 compass is not great. It really cannot be used for anything other than quickly checking your magnetic heading, which you have to mentally reverse since it’s backwards. The outer ring moves, but not the T card. They should move together.
For the dev or anyone curious, this is how a P8 is supposed to work. Yes, it’s A2A, but I don’t think a working compass should be out of the question at the Fox Moth’s price point.
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Yes, the T card has come adrift from the ring, and the pointer/compass card reversed - thanks for noticing. We’ll fix that. As nothing is going to move by vibration, the locking pin in this case is just used to activate ring rotation by moving the mouse left and right.
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The difference between the standard and modified version is very small - there were two types of tailwheel used, one of which raised the tail by a couple of inches. These appear to have been used mainly on the New Zealand versions, but do appear elsewhere. As this changes the contact point height, it required a new flight_model.cfg, which in turn required a new aircraft folder. That’s it.
The biggest difference in the Fox Moth’s is with VO-ADE and the float versions. They had a factory modification of a larger fin and rudder, which is modelled but not easy to notice.
Mike
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Awesome, thanks for that! All sorts of things slip through the cracks on release, what matters is developers taking notice and adjusting which you are. Looking forward to the first patch.
Problems have been corrected. Will just wait a day or so just to make sure nothing else comes up, and then send the update to MSFS.
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@MandatedMf1 I really enjoy the Fox Moth. It looks fantastic! One thing I’ve noticed is that the never exceed speed seems to be too low. Both the manual and placard in the cockpit state it should be at 125mph. Currently I get an overstress crash if I get to around 100-105 mph. It would be awesome if you could change it to 130-135 or so and start the shaking at around 120-125 mph.
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Oh, good catch. I have had engine and stress damage off forever because I hate an unexpected end to my flight. Hopefully they can patch it to boost it a bit for those that prefer to keep those types of crash detection enabled.