GNSs on DC3 unusable at night. (Need to confirm if other local legends affected)

Deadeye3131772 · November 25, 2024, 5:00am

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: It seems that the old DC-3, moved into 2024 has an issue where the GNSs, the working title upgraded, I assume, dim at night and brightens during the day. This can be most starkly seen if you switch from say Noon to midnight. (see screenshots) The GNSs are pretty much unusable at night. Cannot confirm if the issue is on other old or Local Legends planes. I have not yet tried them. tried to go to the backlight setting in the GNS530 but that’s already at Auto and 8000. Manual made no difference. Add another bug to the list, guys…

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: DC-3. Need to confirm other old planes like Stratoliner or Beech 18. Will test them tomorrow and add to this thread unless someone else has aviator edition and can test.

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

I do have some stuff from 2020 in there, mostly liveries. But none of them, to my knowledge, would affect the GNSs like this. I’ll try to completely confirm later.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

When ever you fly the plane at night.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

load up the DC3
change time from day to night and back.
watch the GNSs as you do so.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant: just a saitek X52 joystick. Should have no effect.

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No.

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? ASUS 3070KO

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? I7-14700K. 32GB of ram. Game is on an M.2 NVME SSD.

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Cetieel · November 27, 2024, 3:36am

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I have the same issue as well. At night the GNS units are too dim to read and trying to adjust the brightness under the AUX page doesn’t work.

TannhauserO7 · November 27, 2024, 9:44pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes. Exactly the same.

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• Can be reproduced also with weather that changes the outside light. With more clouds and rain its getting darker while daytime and the display of the GNS530 and 430 starts dimming. I also use a DC3 retrofit. A Beechcraft M18 is still missing in my list (i purchased it in MSFS2020) So i can not tell if the issue exist with the Twinbeech too.
It seems that this issue is connected to how much light is outside and that the cause (night/ clouds/weather) do not to matter.

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RecordedTrack82 · December 6, 2024, 7:41am

Oh, waw, thank you for the tip of changing the time to change the brightness of the GNS!
Yes, also happens in the Boeing 307:

Chewwy94 · December 6, 2024, 1:08pm

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged

dadeblunts · December 9, 2024, 2:58am

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: Garmin is unreadable in the DC-3. Even tried going into the brightnes settings in the garmin itself but i could not make it brighter

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: DC-3

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue? No Mods

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Always

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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Fly the plane

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant: HOTAS and Controller

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

1080gtx
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

32 gb ram ryzen 1700

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nigelmcelwee · January 13, 2025, 11:10am

I have the same issue with all my aircraft. Daytime is fine but night time cannot see. With the PMS GTN 750 I have the exact opposite issue. Its way too dark in daytime and too bright at night.

Rayman1870 · May 24, 2025, 2:34am

I have the same issue with the Carenado PA34T. During the day Garmin Display is visible but once I change the time of day to night the GNS can be barely seen. I’ve tried adjusting the backlight display from auto to manual and vice versa but to no avail.

LonghornRam · June 5, 2025, 4:29am

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• Yes, same issue. All 2020 Local Legends are unusable at night when equipped with the GNS530/430

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SmotheryVase665 · June 14, 2025, 1:10am

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• Yes

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Glass dispalys are unreadable after dark, with or without the pilot flashlight enabled.
Currently on SU3 Beta v1.5.4.0

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Grimbero · July 23, 2025, 11:14pm

The same for me either

cabbepe · August 20, 2025, 10:05pm

How come this is still not resolved???

CrunchyFrog2501 · August 26, 2025, 6:51am

The same problem in Bell 407. I tried to take a night flight, but GNS530 was so dark I couldn’t really see anything. Also couldn’t make it more bright in GNS’s aux settings.