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I plan on buying a gtx3070 and a i7 or 9 10xxx
But run them with 3 hp242 24” 1929x1200. Screens do you think that this will also bug down the CPU ?
Brg
Peter
Can’t give true opinion as I don’t use multi monitor. What is important for multitasking is to have as many cores as possible so if not on a budget go for as many cores and as higher core speeds as you can get. Don’t know about the graphics card on multi monitor setup…
Recent introduction of new Gpu’s (AMD and Nvidia) raised a couple of questions.
Nvidia announced to launch several TI-versions of their latest 3000 serie in the near future.
As far as I could tell the 3070TI (for example) should have 11GB on board in stead of the 8GB the standard version is carrying.
New CPU developments show there will be more room (cores) to spread the workload of an application (Fs2020).
So my question is: As the CPU can process more data, will this mean a GPU with (only) 8GB will have enough processing room (for the graphical side) or will it (8GB) be insufficient?
Thanks for your thoughts / advice 
It’ll probably be sufficient for 1080p and 1440p. 8GBs for 4K is pushing it though
It seems “round 3 
” has started 
Another competitor has entered the arena… The RTX3060-TI. For what I’ve seen so far this may be another good alternative. The benchmarks are slightly behind the 3070 but higher than the 2080 Super.
I’m looking forward to the tested benchmarks so we can add this one to our wish list.
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Seems like I approached a T-crossing here:
1- Should I push my current Pc (older MB) to the limit by upgrading it with an I9-9000k and a RTX-3060ti?
2- Wait a few more months and go for a AMD build (MB and CPU)? I still would add a RTX3060ti to this system.
Option 1 is the cheapest and easiest but will be the end station for my current Pc
Option 2 takes more time (and money) but should be more future proof.
I’m not really familiar with all the detailed technical terms so your advice is really appreciated.
Almost there 
I’d appreciate your advice (again). I’m planning to upgrade in two steps. My MB , RAM and CPU can wait.
I got a proposition (of a dealer) to upgrade my Case, PSU and GPU for now.
As this case will be bigger I can choose a bigger GPU (size). There are two cards that have my attention.
The MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Gaming X Trio 8GB and the Asus RoG Strix GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Gaming 8GB.
I wonder if there is anyone who upgrades their GPU to one of these two and if there facing CPU problems. I think my I7-7700 should be able to handle them but is will run at top level.
Thanks for your thoughts / advice 
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The CPU will Bottleneck the 3060-ti. Wether the 3060-ti is future proof is a difficult question. Theoretically yes for 1440p but… the it there are so many factors that come into play and some strange behaviour. Looks lime tjere is a lot on the software side to be improved which will lift the performance over the next months or so.
I rin Ryzen 7-5800X and Asus Geforce 3060-ti at 1440p resolution. Frame Rate between 45 and 50. Load CPU Main Thread 80% and GPU 25%… Something is holding it back.
Strong CPU is essential.
The RTX 3060ti is by all accounts a great card and better value for money than a 3070. I suspect that there won’t be much difference between the two cards you’ve got a choice of. There isn’t much difference between any of the RTX 3080 cards from what I can see. You might get literally 2 or 3 FPS difference if you’re running some crazy over clocked highly optimised system, but thats it.
I got an RTX 3080 just before Xmas. Its a total beast of a card. I’m running it with an i7 7700 and with FS2020 there is fair amount of bottlenecking. I play other games too though and it performs great there. I do plan to upgrade to a better processor and motherboard later this year.
Hi TJ,
Thanks for your reply. It’s indeed a difficult question to predict or the 3060ti will be future proof. Currently I know my GPU (Gtx1060) is the bottleneck by far. When I do tests my CPU is also a bottleneck, but it manages FS pretty well (80%). As I’m planning to upgrade my CPU and Motherboard later this year I think it won’t be holding back the performance as much as my GPU currently does.
FS bottleneck with my current specs:
FS bottleneck with a RTX 3060 ti (theoretically)
That said, if also requires a good optimization strategy.
Overall every simmer has the problem (and challenge) to choose the best possible parts with a limited budget.
Hi Mobias,
Are u sure your running an I7-7700 (non K) also? In that case my Pc-shop advisor informed me correctly by saying that the I7-7700 is an underestimated CPU.
I also play other games and use Cubase for my work as Music-Composer which is also a heavy duty application.
I’m also planning to upgrade my MB and CPU later this year. I haven’t decided yet if I stay with Intel or change to AMD. This will also be a quest.
Thanks for your comment
I think the i7 7700 is totally fine as an all rounder CPU but clearly FS2020 is a CPU hungry sim. The more processing power you can throw at it the better.
That being said there’s plenty of people here who have super powerful overclocked i9 processors who aren’t getting the performance you’d expect them to have with the sim.
It’ll be interesting to see where things go from here as far as optimisation goes. There’s talk of them being able to optimise glass display aircraft a lot better than they are currently. Clearly things will evolve.
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If they’re not getting the ‘performance you’d expect’, then your expectations are wrong
The i9’s (and goes for AMD’s Ryzen 9 as well) really are productivity CPU’s (10 cores / 20 threads and even more). Games in general (sims included) can’t utilize all those extra cores and threads. What does matter though is single core performance (to help with the main thread). The 10900K does pretty good at that, but the CPU will show low utilization due to its additional cores.
It’s also why the Ryzen 5000 series CPU’s work so well for the sim; they have great single core performance. But for AMD goes the same as for intel; anything over 6 or 8 cores (12 or 16 threads) is overkill for any game or sim workload (at least for the foreseeable future).
Regarding the 7700; it’s a 4 core / 8 thread CPU, which is 4 years (3 generations, almost 4) behind. It will do pretty good, but don’t expect wonders.
If you’re considering a new build; take a look at the Ryzen 5 5600X (if you can get your hands on one), it’s pretty much the performance sweet spot right now.
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Thanks for the info. I guess all these processors (like new graphics cards) are all difficult to come by at the moment. Hopefully things will improve later this year. The Ryzen 5 does look good. Well priced too.
yep, pretty much (depending on your location). I managed to get hold of a 5800X. Wanted to get a 5600X, but couldn’t get one. Very happy with it.
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I’m sure Asobo will be able to optimize FS in the near future. Like you said many settings like glass-cockpits, clouds and other eye-candy need to be, and will be balanced. It must be difficult to find the sweet-spot for the variety of users and their different systems.
For now I’m planning to order a RTX3060ti, a heavier PSU (650watt) and the Fractal Vector Case (just because it looks sexy). Later this year I’ll also upgrade my MB and CPU.
I might make the switch to AMD, also because MortThe2 made me focus on the 5600x (or higher).
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Hi deak2 big,
Even with specs like ours we should be able to manage a reasonable frame-rate in all cases. Within Fs there is a lot of difference between the aircraft’s in general. The A-320 is not yet optimized, so if you add this to the sim itself, which also needs optimization, you won’t get the performance that matches your specs.
In your case I’m almost sure there are settings that can be aligned to gain reasonable frame-rates even when flying big airports. In my case I’m trying to figure out if any upgrade would solve performance problems. As you know some of us bought expensive hardware and still are struggling with performance problems.
I’m not counting on 100fps in the future even when the sim is balanced but aiming for 60fps. DX-12 will enhance Fs but won’t “fix” all problems.
In your case I would try to figure out what causes your bottleneck at this time. Even when my specs are lower then yours I run 35+ as an average without turning off normal settings. Tuning Fs is a strategy which is very Pc depended so following different good intended tricks can result in worse performance.
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These are good points-I have an i7 10700k and a 3070-I cannot run P3D v5.1 any more-the DX12 is not optimised and eats up 8GB vram in a minute and crashes the sim every time.
I hope Asobo get dx12 right with MSFS2020-at the moment I can run it on reasonable settings
after some time with an i7 10700k and a rtx 3070, 32 mb ram and 2 m2 ssd running 3 24" monitors i changed to RTX 3080 suddenly i no longer had overflow on the processor.
however with a hp reverb even that card is hard pushed in the configuration.
suggestion: if you can get the hardware especially the RTX cards my suggestion is that you build a new rig. with an existing rig you will be hard pressed on your powersupply, with a RTX 3080TI card you will need abt 1000 w.
just my 10c worth.
Blue skies to all
brg
Peter
RTX 3080 Ti is only 350W rated. We are past the times when GPU’s were pulling 500W plus or when people did SLI.
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