Gsync Screen + Vsynk ON and Ultra low latency = Better or not?

I have struggeled for a VERY (!!) long time to get the gameplay (FS2020 ofcourse) smooth on my LG 27GL83a. Its been an “interesting” journey. Since I though Gsync would do the job all the time, I turned OFF VSYNC in NCP. I then tried to run the game with no Vsync at all: not from NCP nor in the game (it worked best in the game and in 30 fps). But it never felt “fluid” in a natural way.

So, I came across a post here on the forum that told me to have BOTH Vsync and Gsync ON in NCP. I have now tried that and it made a huuuuuge difference from what I can tell. The scren (LG 27GL83a) could handle adaptive sync from 48hz which I did not think about). The Vsync (in NCP) seemed to helped here.

Other settings in NCP: Maximum Performance and Ultra Latency. NO Vsync on in game.

Try and see what you thing, Ultra low latency caused freezing in the startup of the sim earlier but with the latest Nvidia Driver Released Today It seem to work fine again.

I think I get better and more smooth peformance over all. Let me hear what you think (if you have not tried this “simple” solution). There might be problems with Ultra low latency, but so far I have sen none of that.

And yes…there is a new driver out. Just get it, might help you fellows out.

Ryzen 5600X (stock) RTX 3060 Ti (OC’d +150 / +800)
16Gb RAM 3000Mhz (via DOCP in Bios)
Running in native 1440P. High on most settings but ULTRA settings on the top 5 (exept trees and bushes which i have set HIgh to).

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Hmm. Seems like there still is a problem to use ULTRA low latency. Just got an CTD here. Might be Vsync ON (in NCP). Not sure. But this was in the menus. Weird.

If you fly in VR remember to keep low latency off. The reason is covered pretty well here. Msfs2020*BEST Graphics Settings For SIM 9 Update* PC&VR Must see! *Time stamped below* - YouTube

Ok. Im on an ordinary screen myself.

Looking at the specs of your monitor yes, it works from 48Hz to 144Hz because is not a native G-sync one. So you better try to do as much as possible to stay over 48fps to have a real G-sync behaviour. Below 48Hz most likely the monitor will try to adapt to some freq below it, but still will be a fixed one (you will not see a true G-sync behaviour). That´s the problem of G-sync compatible monitors that normally the working range starts above 48Hz.

About V-sync the recommended setting is to disable because when monitor is in the G-sync range it changes its frequency to match your fps all the time, so V-sync is always overriden by the monitor so it´s better that game runs without any fps cap. But if you have two monitors setup and one is a regular one you may still want to enable V-sync so that the second monitor works with it on the screen that is not rendering the game. Anyway I thing Nvidia handles the situation no matter which setting you use. But for the case of your monitor it may matter to activate V-sync, as most likely that will make it run on adaptive frequency mode instead, meaning that it will operate at 36 Hz, 29 Hz or 24 Hz (fixed fractions of your max 144 Hz freq) when it´s below 48Hz, so if your fps are matching those values in game you won´t have stuttering but once they differ a bit from them the stuttering may appear. Once you are above 48Hz the G-sync mode will be triggered again and change values continuously up to 144Hz.

For the future try to get a native G-sync monitor instead. They are more expensive but the G-sync feature works from 1Hz up to the monitor max frequency so you never have stuttering at all as the working range is complete.

Cheers

Some great info there! =) Thank you. I actually did not know the limitations of this screen when I got it (good in every review etc). But now I know.

So, Vsync OFF in NCP - and then OFF in game too? I acutally got best results (exept for what I tried above) with Vsync ON / 30 in game.

Exactly. This is how I use mine at least, but is a true G-sync one. I didn´t see any difference with MSFS when activating V-sync anyway. Results may depend of your monitor chip, I don´t know, but the theory is that you don´t need V-sync when running a G-sync monitor.

Ah… don´t forget about an important setting in Nvidia:

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Activate both full screen and windowed modes. This will allow G-sync to work also in windowed games.

Cheers

I never play in windowed mode exept for when I want to be able to use OBS! in DCS.

How about the setting “Game adjust” ->> “Response Time” on my LG 27GL83a ? Its on “FAST” now, lowering it makes the fps go down a bit. (still fluctuating since no Vsync on with locked fps). But what does it do? The settings are OFF, Normal, Fast and Faster? Whats the best generall setting for both FS2020 and other games, as well ■■■ CS:GO etc? Should I turn it off and instead rely on NCP settings?

Hi @BoxiestAbyss920. Glad to see you have discovered a configuration that improves your performance. That said, I moved your post to the #self-service:install-performance-graphics category where subjects like yours are discussed, and I also added “nvidia” and “graphics” tags to help with searchability. Enjoy!

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Seems it wasnt a good choice anyway, but hey - you gonna try. Fail to win, sort of.

Thanks for moving my post + adding tags!

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This is the response time of your monitor in miliseconds and will not impact fps at all because is just a setting for the screen itself. The faster the better as image fluidity is improved but that can also create distorsion and artifacts so ideally set to to a high or medium value (depends on each monitor) and decide what’s better for your own taste.

Some monitors may still have good results in the slower renponses (the normal preset) while others are not dealing well with the fastest response (the fastest preset) as colors are corrupted for instance. Tune it until you don’t see ghosting in the figures contour nor color distorsion. Rotating external view is a good test to check those effects, just looking at the shapes of the clouds. Also while in cockpit you can rotate view looking at the windows borders. If there is any distortion, ghosting or lag you will notice it instantly with those two quick tests.

Cheers

Just found this topic at avsim. Setting NCP to locked 35 and then using vsync at 30 in game seem to work for those players:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/618968-finally-no-more-fps-drops-su9/

Tell me us if this is working for you together which gear you use (and screen, and its technology). =)

Seems to work “so and so” for me. Generally kind of smoother on the ground, or maybe its just placebo? Ive also lovered Terrain LOD from 200 to 100. Might be that.

The latest days Ive not been using Vsync at all (nor in game), but I still have severe stutters on ground on larger airports. No problems in the air whatsover. Think this is more a SU9 + hotifx problem though.

Any other suggestions to try?

Hi guys, I’m struggling to gain a better experience with MSFS, especially in some airports such as EDDF, EGGK, EGGL and so on.
I’ve read your post and tested your settings, but still having problems.
When Gsync is on, the sim trembles in the background…do you experience the same? How to solve? (my monitor is AOC 24G2U/BK). Thanks

Vsync ON helps with screen tearing :wink:

But is it needed if the screen is a gaming screen? It will adapt itself I guess. (mine does). No Vsync, and its fluid (also tried 50 and 33 percent of refreshrate). Seems more smooth turning it off. Nothing touched in NCP.

Don’t think I’d use low latency think its more beneficial for very fast shooter type games more than msfs? I may be wrong though :thinking: