Helicopters are bouncing and jumping around causing instant crashes

By this I mean the helicopter is dropped onto the ground and then bounces around until a crash is recorded at which time the mission is failed immediately. This results in reduction of the pilot’s “status” and other negative results.

This seems to happen most often when a helicopter has just been relocated to a new area (sometimes at great expense).

Also locks up the screen on the “Return To Main Menu” selection forcing a reboot of the sim.

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I’ve gone from A down to C reputation just testing it.

Completely killed my progress and now every helicopter in the sim is bouncing on any mission crashing it so that Career Mode is completely useless to me at the moment.

Very, very frustrating.

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OK so I found a potential workaround… it’s not pretty but it seemed to work. I went into a chopper challenge mission (which… i dunno, reset the altitude or something) and the next spawn i did was tip top…

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same issue for me

couldn’t even return to the main menu and after closing the sim with alt-f4 now my reputation has dropped dramatically.

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It worked for me too! I was stuck with this bug for 2 hours and crashed 6 times and this saved me.
Thank you very much!

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

Helicopters bouncing around on skids at the start of missions (even inside the hangar). Appears to be after they’ve been moved from one location to another with a different elevation. Many times bounces so wildly it crashes, then the mission stops. Many times the sim crashes then as well when attempting to return to the Headquarters screen.

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

No mods. Nothing in community folder.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Once it starts, seems to happen on every subsequent mission.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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  1. Move the helicopter from where it is to another area with a significant elevation difference (say from Utah, to Alaska.)
  2. Attempt to load a helicopter mission (either H-125, or Cabri).
  3. Watch the thing bounce like mad before it’s even started, in the mission pre-scene.

YOUR SETTINGS

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[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
DX12

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

NVidia 4030

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
Tricked out rig, yo.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

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• Only happening for me on player owned helicopters.

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• Can upload footage when past “New User” restriction. Video shows helicopter bouncing wildly during Pilot walk up scene, a quick fade to black via “Skip to take-off,” then helicopter boucing during passenger arrival and when player is given control for startup. Clip ends before helicopter is destroyed in a crash.

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Adding to this might helps some:

I got this to stop (I think) by going into Free Flight in the area where my helicopter is hangar’d and flew around for a bit and landed.

Then went back into missions and voila … suddenly my helicopter wasn’t bouncing around any more.

I think maybe this bug is related to moving the helicopter from high-altitude regions to lower ones and maybe it’s updating its “ground” location and because the skids are bouncy, it’s causing the bouncing.

Just a theory.

Yes this is happening to me as well. I have not been able to play a career mission in a few days and with all the bugs I experience in the other missions it has made it almost impossible to make any meaningful income. Please fix this!

I tried you solution and it seems to work for my employee career missions sold my heli as it would get smashed every time I start a freelance job basically bankrupting me so have not tried freelance yet.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes, owned helicopters completely unplayable

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• Helicopter bouncing at the mission briefing screen and then crashing immediately at the start of the mission. Destroying helicopter and lowering reputation over repeated attempts.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes (but only intermittent)

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• the issue occurs intermittently and sometimes in free flight mode, sometimes in career mode

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
All Helicopters are bouncing around in the pre-flight hanger and also in the flight before take off. When you try to load a flight up the helicopters will instantly jump up and crash causing rep loss and forcing a restart that does not fix anything. This is happening in both career and freeflight. Making the game impossible to play with helicopters.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
All Helicopters

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
No mods

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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  1. Start game with any helicopter

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

X-56 HOTAS

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX12

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

4070 TI Super

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

Intel i9 10900k 3.70ghz
32 gb ram
4070 Ti Super

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• I have the same issue, but only occurring in the business hangar prior to a freelance flight. Instant crash upon accepting mission. All missions with the G2 start like this.

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same for me. can’t play career mode at all anymore. and I lost a ■■■■ TON of reputaiton and money

It happened after moving a helicopter from an altitude airport to the LIMA airport in west italia.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

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• Intermittent. Not specific to helicopter variant. I experienced the issue with the H125 under multiple variants, even moving across the world to try different locations. Still had the same effect.

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• Yes

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• Only on cold and dark start, pilot outside the hélicopter.

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Here in hangar but do the same at the start of flight on parking and crash. Same with the H125.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
No - BTW I use “realistic” controls, no assist. Bell 407 flies nicely. All tests done in Free Flight mode.

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Started all the following on the runway:
Bell 407 - it flies normally, can slow take-off, hover and land, no bouncing.
Guimbal Cabri G2- Stable on runway. But in flight it is very twitchy, not flyable.
H125 - Stable on runway, also twitchy, flyable but way too sensitive.
S64F Skycrane - Stable on runway, easy control.
Robinson R66 Turbine - Stable on runway, won’t fly.
Could not increase throttle to power it up.

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Not sure how to show a video, but the Bell at least, has no problem.

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• H125 bounces and crashes before it even spawns. Both in my employee and freelance mode. Lost more than 20k credits in repairs and now from hi A to low B reputation without having credits to further repair my helicopter. It was working fine and then started next freelance and thats all she wrote.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• All helicopters both in missions (employee and frelance) and in free flight.

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• was flying helicopters all day then all of a sudden they started bouncing in the hanger and then as soon as the fly screen loads as seen in the OP’s screenshot. Not setting had been changed between flights.

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