How to know if there is a turbulence throughout the flight[MSFS]?

Upper wind and temperature charts |Riigi Ilmateenistuse lennumeteoroloogiline informatsioon (lennuilm.ee)

google does wonders!

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Just don’t be surprised when those external weather sources won’t fit to what you experience in the sim as the sim among other weather bugs doesn’t currently model turbulence correctly. Meaning not even close to what you would have experience in real life. Many threads on that already here in the forum.

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I’m old enough to remember how people were complaining here how the planes were “on the rails”, so now we are complaining that turbulence is all wrong? I have to say I am quite impressed how many here are true experts and know exactly how these phenomenon should be modeled. Well, at least how they should not be modeled.

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No true. Check your facts.

The forums are a big waste of time. There are millions of users who are have a good time. PS There is turbulence. Its a sim remember?

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Much rethoric no facts.

Plenty of IRL experience here and evidence in this forum. I know you two guys are known not to be convinced when it comes to criticism of MSFS no matter what IRL pilots or aviation experts say. So I am not even trying.

For all others see here especially the comparison vids btw real life and sim. Or find the separate thread on thermals. Or see how the sim lets you fly through Hurricanes in GA planes. And no it was not fixed yesterday the bug log was opened.

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Thank you so much for all the detailed and informative answers. One more question, how one should read these numbers? I mean how do I understand if there is a turbulence by looking at the map?

SkyVector is pretty accurate for me

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As far as I know, the only type of turbulence modeled in the sim right now is mechanical turbulence. So anytime you’re overflying mountains or flying close to larger objects with higher environmental wind speeds, you’ll experience turbulence.
Clear air turbulence, thermal turbulence, convective turbulence, wake turbulence etc. are not modeled in the sim yet.
That means there’s no point in looking at significant weather prognostic charts.

If you have a jet stream sitting near Alps for the example, you’ll jump like crazy… that’s the one situation where you could look at the winds aloft and expect some bumps.

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Thank you!

I’m really surprised at the replies to your first post as it was spot-on (as is this one).

I agree that lots of folks can have fun with the sim in its current state… no doubt about that at all.

But the OP was specifically asking about turbulence. And you gave a very accurate reply regarding turbulence. I had to re-read the thread to see if I’d missed something. Clearly I didn’t.

Thanks again.

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My motion platform tells me if theres turbulence. I get chucked about quite nocitably on some flights.

Interesting. Which motion platform are you using? I have a NLR v3 and with the exception of a hint of ‘quivering’ around hills, I’ve experienced no turbulence with it using the default driver profile.

The jolt you get when you encounter a sudden step change in pressure has woken me up on a couple of occasions…

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Thanks a lot!

So currently the sim has only the turbulences over mountains etc.

I see, and do you know how one can interpret the wind map that I shared an example of it above?

How do I determine if there is a turbulence by looking at that image?

Also, plane shakes :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Just looking at the wind map does not tell you where and how much turbulence there is because very strong winds at altitude can be laminar eg jet stream, mountain waves.

Next to GA planes I often fly gliders in Foehn / Mistral conditions and once you get from the very turbulent rotor into the wave all goes quiet. So when I slowed down the plane enough I was able to go backwards over ground in the over 100kmh headwind.

Turbulence maps give more insight at altitude eg

https://www.turbulenceforecast.com/

At low level winds above 15kts can shake up a Cessna quite well. As these winds are disturbed by trees, buildings, hills etc. See the real life vids which Perry posted in the thread I linked above.

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Thank you for the explanation and providing the link.

From this I can understand a bit how the wind speed having an effect over an aircraft like Cessna.

You’re welcome. The 15kts are more meant as a ballpark figure just to give an idea how little wind already can be quite challenging for pilots of small aircraft in critical phases of flight eg landings.

Everyone perceives turbulence differently and every aircraft reacts differently of course.

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I don’t think it’ll ever feel realistic no matter what they do. I think it looks kind of realistic, based on how the turbulence chucks the aircraft about a lot more realistically after WU6. But it’ll never feel realistic because turbulence is felt, not watched lol.

Sorry to say. Not even remotely close. And of course one can never perfectly model turbulence. However other flight sims, much older and less advanced ones, have already proven that one can do a much much better job than MSFS currently does.

If you are genuinely interested take a look here.

… and then look ca 3days later when Perry flew the same approach in the sim having set the same wind conditions. Or try for yourself and see if you have to work as much as the two pilots in that Cessna.

I get the impression from Asobos initial video demo on wind / weather that they have a much more advanced system as the one they currently show. They also stated (see other posts) that they tuned down the current model and even continue to work on it for a re-release. So we will see.

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Hi,

The numbers are temperatures and are below 0C unless + or PS (positive) is shown before the number.

For wind speed, half a stroke is 5 kts, a whole stroke is 10 kts and a little triangle or “flag” is 50 kts. Add it all up to find the windspeed.

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