I am absolutely FLABBERGASTED, at the state of this simulator. WHAT IS happening to me?

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I’ve just had probably the worst experience I’ve had in any product in my life, not just games.

I hop in an f18, f16, typhoon, rafale, and hawk t2 to do some acrobatics, and I get about 10000 glitches in just an hour and can barely get anywhere.

I had a speed glitch where I couldn’t reach over 250kts in any plane, even at full afterburner, I just got stuck at like 200kts no matter what, unless I went in a straight line pitched down for a minute or two, then I could reach may be 300-400.

I then had a glitch where I couldn’t take off straight, especially in the f16, where the rudder would randomly twitch left and right, throwing me all over the place.

Then I had a glitch in the f18 where for some reason I could roll left like normal rate, but banking right, was basically impossible, or like 30X slower than banking left.

Then I had a problem where the f18 just banked left forever pulling me to the ground because I couldn’t stop it, or counter it. I watched the replay, and found that the control surfaces were FLAT the entire time, so there wasn’t EVEN any input that should make it do that.

Then I tried taking off with the hawk t2, only to have the landing gears get stuck, 4 times, impossible to raise the landing gear, then I just did a slew mode to fix it, it pulled the wheels up, but now I could barely turn the hawk for some reason, like it was a 747.

Then that suddenly collapsed and felt out of the sky and went into one of those really really strange spins where it kinda rolls slowly, then suddenly it rolls SUPER DUPER fast, then rolls slowly again, then SUDDENLY again, super fast.

Then I landed the f16 in a different flight, only for the it to veer off to the right into the grass despite my constant effort to keep it centered using the wheel steering and even right and left brakes, and then also rudder.

Then I had a situation where the f18 would take off as soon as I put full throttle, at LITERALLY 10kts, going straight up vertical without me even pulling back on the stick at all, without even seeing any visual indication of the elevators or ailerons moving.

Then I took off in it, and couldn’t pitch up or down at all, only left and right.

Then I tried the typhoon only to find the same problem with it not being able to get beyond 250kts at any point even though full AFB was on.

Then I had a problem with full throttle where if I went to full throttle, and then wanted to put on full afb, it would go from 99% throttle to 80% instantly.

Then I had a problem where I couldn’t take off in the rafale without the plane randomly banking by itself wherever it wanted, same with F18.

I’m probably missing out about 5-10 other issues like this all within a day, most of which within an hour or two of flying.

I am just lost for words honestly.

Either these addons are totally broken, or this sim is a total mess, or both.

I’ve reinstalled the sim about 25 times, twice in the last month or two, I’ve got no mods in the community folder, I’ve got no modifications at all except a tree height mod from the marketplace.

I also tried flying the l-39 racing plane, and I couldn’t get it to really turn at all, it flew like a fricken 737, that’s supposed to be a racing jet, I just don’t understand this simulator at all.

it blows my mind, really it does, I recognize this post is a mess, but I am a mess.. I don’t know what to say anymore, this sim has given me soo much grief, so many glitches, so many problems, Ive quite literally pulled hair out, and had visible clumps of hair in my hands.

I am gobsmacked as to how something can be soo buggy and soooo utterly devastatingly broken.

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I’d check your flight model settings first. Is it on MODERN? (under the General Options tab)

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It’s modern. But i’ve tried every troubleshoot I could think of.

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My first guess would be that these add-ons are conflicting with each other in some way, perhaps changing behaviors due to over writing settings. You could try uninstalling all of your Marketplace add-on content, and then just trying the base F-18 again.

My second guess would be some strange hardware conflict or controller conflict.

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I’ve tried all that. I basically reinstall everything every flippin’ day because of these issues.

i don’t think it’s a hardware conflict.

I think it’s something wrong with the sim, or the mods or both.

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You’ve also got this thread:

I’m thinking you have a binding or other hardware problem. Something is knocking your throttle down.

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The thing that’s knockng my throttle down is the throttle increase.

It seems to by default go back to 80% whenever you add throttle increase. Maybe because it gets confused because I’m already at 99%.

I’m just trying to push up to 102% to get the afterburner fully on.

But it doesn’t like it. I used to have full throttle unassigned, and used 90% throttle instead, but I don’t have a throttle stick so keyboard is a bit awkward to get from 90% to 100% without lots of tapping page up, or lots of holding it down.

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Hi @NotIdentity24 for this issue could you go into gaming controls in windows and find your hardware for you flight yoke or joystick and click propities

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then under the X axis right click and untick link deadzones the match the grey to arrows to the red line, the right click the mouse and click link deadzones again then click ok then restart the sim, and see if the veering right or left is fixed, Also in options assitance under the preset reset all the settings so choose easymode save settings, then change to hard mode then save settings, then change back to you own settings if you dont have rudder pedals you will need to turn on autorudder under piloting, also if you had crash and stress damage of you will need to turn it off again Hope this helps

Andy 2790

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Did you make sure all piloting assists that can mess with flight controls are off?

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yes i do, and if I ever turn them on, I turn them off again.

sometimes I have auto rudder on to keep the plane centered when taking off, or to counteract the torque that takes the plane off to the side, but I never use anything else except very rarely auto trim.

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I wasn’t even touching anything and the rudder was moving around like mad like it had am kind of its own.

I don’t even use a stick or yoke or anything like that, just mouse and keyboard.

I use a virtual controller to turn mouse xy coordinates to joystick inputs, but I test calibration and it works just fine.

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You forgot to add ‘on my system’ because what you see is not what I and a few millions others do not see. There is something wrong with your system, and instead of looking at the ‘product,’ you should look at what could possibly be wrong with your system. Now that you installed the simulator 25 times, let’s rule out the simulator installation being incorrect. That leaves two options: hardware or your OS. If you have not tried other controllers, I would start with that first because incorrect control inputs could explain a lot of what you describe.

But if you have the correct Windows, MSFS, and controller running on non-faulty hardware, you will see the same thing everybody else does and will see none of the issues that bug you. Don’t blame the simulator; that’s causing your issues.

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You forgot to add ‘on my system ’ because what you see is not what I and a few millions others do not see. There is something wrong with your system, and instead of looking at the ‘product,’ you should look at what could possibly be wrong with your system. Now that you installed the simulator 25 times, let’s rule out the simulator installation being incorrect. That leaves two options: hardware or your OS. If you have not tried other controllers, I would start with that first because incorrect control inputs could explain a lot of what you describe.

I’ve seen these issues on other people’s PC’s they are just too hypnotized to actually complain about it.

Not all of them, but many of them.

I really think that people would also have these problems too, mostly, but they either don’t do the kinds of things that make them happen, because they just fly really straight, or they treat it like GTA 5 and don’t care, or they are too distracted by the pretty colours, or they are just not aware enough to spot these things.

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There should be multiple bug reports on file in Zendesk and here on the forums if this were the case. I haven’t seen that here on the forum at least. I of course have no knowledge of Zendesk bugs.

I can say that I fly the F/A-18 and Hawker Hunter, and simply do not have those control surface issues. This is a sample of one.

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This definitely sounds like a localized problem, and I know that’s frustrating. But I agree we’d see tremendous numbers of reports if the things you’re experiencing were affecting even a small percentage of users, as most of what you described are not at all things that you could just ignore.

PCs are nightmares when it comes to isolating problems. I had to reinstall Windows entirely to get MSFS to work when it first came out. I’ll never know why. I was angry at Asobo for weeks over it, but in the end it was not reproducible by essentially anyone else, and the reinstall of Windows fixing it kind of proved it wasn’t the sim, it was something weird on my system. I have had everything from bizarre peripheral issues (like my rudder pedals randomly remapping to other control surfaces a couple years ago) to VJoy (installed for another game) causing havoc until fully uninstalled, to mysterious Windows problems causing crashes, to ordinary mod conflicts which can be elusive if you have mods installed from multiple sources.

Best of luck and I hate to even say it but if you’re in a position to do so without causing yourself more stress, consider a Windows reset (different from a reinstall, but you will lose installed apps so it’ll give you some cleanup work.) Sometimes the wires are crossed so deeply from some long-forgotten setting or app that trying to find it isn’t worth the hassle.

Last edit: Since your issues all sound control related, I encourage you (sorry if you’ve said you’ve done this already!) to open Device Manager, go to Human Interface Devices, and see what’s there. Disable anything you don’t recognize and re-test as you disable things. Keep an eye out for VJoy as well. It’s not guaranteed to cause problems, it’s a legit and useful tool, but it’s bitten me once before.

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Not sure who you are talking about but there are countless people in this forum who take MSFS very seriously and use it very frequently. Many of them with complex hardware setups, many of them current or former real-life pilots. I don’t recall any of them reporting any of your issues outside of assistance options resets, incorrect hardware bindings or controller hardware failure/issues.

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Just to add to what you stated…or addon conflicts.

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Fact…this is a user problem not a Microsoft issue!

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I never use auto trim because it handles my planes in a wierd way. Makes it hard to get control functions that I want.

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What kind of flight controls are you using?