A long time simmer I am. Way back to the 90s. Now iv spent 600+ hours on the sim on my xbox and I was stunned to start with. I never dreamt i one day would sim on my 65 oled tv. BUT Now it is not fun anymore at all. What kills the experience for me is the Ai traffic never departing. And also the ai behaviour. The markedplace is filled with beautiful airports but why would i spend my money on this when i am the only one at the airport departing. It just makes the immersion tragic comic. This must be so sad for the ones making these airports. How come this is not working or being a high priority to be fixed asap is beyond my understanding. I truly dont get it. So pls enlighten me how you all can enjoy this sim on xbox with this fatal flaw. What is it i dont understand. All previous sims had very good ai and animation. Anyone?
OP - yes, I see the same thing. I test fly a lot in PMDY, Midway, Island central pacific, why, no one there. But there are ramp planes, but I never see them go anyplace. Rarely, I see a plane in the air, flying over my location I assume. I don’t know if anyone is seeing me either. One friend who fly’s a lot using the F-14, flew with another friend in same plane. His plane was configured wings extended, but when he saw his friend’s plane, the wings were retracted all the way in, but the speed they were flying at did not justify that position because it’s controlled by airspeed. So, I think there are some bugs in AI traffic, and not sure they are going to get all of them fixed. I got to where, aint worrying about it.
Alpha India Group. AI manager and AI Traffic Controller. Works and is free. Check it out. Note it doesn’t cure the incomplete AI system but it injects real aircraft models, liveries and schedules. Much better than default and nearly no frame impact.
Topic Author is on XBox. Aerosoft Simple Traffic will hopefully make it to Marketplace and you’ll get Departing Traffic.
I think we all hope though that this will be fixed in the base-sim?
I must agree… I actually attempt to compare my simulator to LIVE LIVE traffic using liveatc.net for audio and flightaware.com or flightradar24.com.
1st off when I can identify a Live Plane it appears its like 3-5 mins behind the times.
X-Plane 11 use to nail this with a FREE app called LiveTraffic.
Not sure. I’m not on the Dev Team. I’m just a volunteer and an end user of the product. That’s why I’m not shy looking for gap fill solutions like Simple Traffic. Everyone probably hopes to get it fixed in the sim, but until then, I’ll find ways and products to make my simming as full featured as it can be. Simple Traffic for me gets it done, and it is literally a one-click install.
Yes, fully understood, and I know the team has acknowledged the issue. Just hoping that you guys were informed on these issues by the dev team and could give us some more insight into how things are developing.
So I suggested to you twice to inform the developers to investigate no departing traffic. This was a month or so ago when there was no live traffic due to server problems, and you had offered to relay the problem to Asobo. I never received a reply from you in that thread and have always wondered if you mentioned anything about this to Asobo?
I am fully aware it’s not your responsibility but I thought since you had offered to see what you could do about the live traffic servers being down it would be a good time to let Asobo know about no departing traffic. After all it has been broken since SU5 and I feel like we have been left in the dark. That is in no way your fault.
I am enjoying the performance increase with that came with SU5 but I am disappointed the “no departing aircraft” hasn’t been fixed by now.
I am using AIG in the meantime and while it’s a good step in the right direction it too has it’s problems thanks to Asobo not fixing the problems with airline traffic.
I think ST is an alternative for XBOX users once it hits the marketplace. But being a PC user I will not be paying any money for anything related to live traffic until Asobo fixes the problems on their end because until they do any traffic addons will be at least partially defective. Thankfully AIG is free.
If you have followed any of the Dev Q&As, they are aware of all the AI traffic issues. In fact, in the last one Jörg even mentioned the email from the AIG team listing all the issues they had found when implementing their solution for it. I don’t think it’s fair to blame a voluntare forum dev for not informing the team.
I did mention it. But as you saw in the recent Q&A, Jorg
already knows about it.
There will be aspects of the sim that will take a long time to address. That’s not a guess, and it’s not an official comment - because I’m not an MS-Asobo employee. It’s just simply a combination of observation and reasonable estimates.
For example, Working Title needs to eventually replace the sim Flight Planning logic with the bespoke one they piloted with the CJ4 and now the NXi. That won’t happen until they at least bring the G1000, CJ4, G3000 and G3X to NXi standards. Consider where NXi is right now and it’s still in Early Access. CJ4 is likely going to be a quick conversion because everything the NXi has was piloted in the CJ4. G3000/G3X? Who knows - an optimistic estimate says Q3 before they get to those last two. Then they can start overhauling the sim FP. In the meantime, they’re also committed to fixing the 430/530, the FMS and perhaps some other features of many Deluxe/Premium planes, and do something about ATC. What do you think that work in toto is good for? I say there’s about two solid years of work right there from the end of 2022. And that’s with a team solely dedicated to FMS.
Whatever estimates people have in their mind, it’s probably too short. Ten years might be enough to get the sim to where 80 percent of users are grudgingly happy with it. This isn’t a gripe. It’s an acknowledgement that this is indeed a journey, and not a quick one.
For me, I’ll enjoy the sim for what it is at any given time, and if there’s some product to help make it better during that time and I can afford it, I’ll use it. The sim was never going to solve everything and be all encompassing. That’s why so much effort is put into building an ecosystem around it. I’m going to enjoy it now as best as I can, each time I fire it up, because who knows where we’ll all be a decade from now?
'Nuff said, off to bed.
Where did I say I was blaming him? I was simply asking if he had relayed the no departing aircraft bug to Asobo when he relayed the part about the servers being offline. Since he never replied to my posts I think it was fair to ask.
I liked the way Live Traffic worked before Asobo broke it with SU5. It was far from perfect but much better than where it’s at now. And here we are months later and it still hasn’t been fixed.
I know they are aware of the issues but I think it would have been proper of them to fix what they broke.
I am not sure how you understand what you wrote here, but to me that sounds a lot like “you told him and he did not do what you told him to do”.
Ah, right, you are one of the people who think everything was “broken” with SU5…
We do agree on that. I also enjoy what we have but I am still disappointed and somewhat angry the no departing aircraft bug hasn’t been fixed and the way it sounds we will have quite a wait before we can expect it to be fixed. That’s my biggest beef with the sim, everyone has their beefs and that’s mine 
Go back and read my posts. I suggested, I never received a reply so I asked. And BTW I was asking him not you.
Really? Where did I say that? I suggest you stop putting words into my mouth. Didn’t I say I was happy with the performance improvement thanks to SU5?
My biggest beef is the no departing aircraft bug and I have every right to complain about it.
From my research into this I don’t believe it adjusts AI movements at all, it only replaces liviries. The wording at times has been a bit unintentionally misleading, as the dev has said it uses a database of real world routes to inject traffic into the sim; however it seems that database is only used to cross reference the traffic in the sim and select a suitable livirey for it.
That’s actually true, the AIG has departing traffic, not the Aerosoft, like you say they only replace the liverires with correct ones.
AIG is a bit of a pain to install, and it depicts only historical routes and flights (1-3 years old), so it is not live traffic.
The flight plans used by the injected traffic do include Departures, and they do work. This is KBOS the day I bought the Mod, using settings per Aerosoft Manual. That plane taxiing on the connector? It’s headed for the active.
That’s a nice surprise! I was sure the developer himself in the forum explained Simple Traffic didn’t adjust AI routes or movements at all.
Good though as I’ll buy it for XBOX now.
Edit: Just looked it all up again and yes for offline traffic it does include schedules, I was thinking mainly of live AI traffic. Thanks for bringing it all to my attention!
Just Glad is there is an alternative for X-Box users, however this should not be a solution, when Asobo promised live traffic from day one, or A/I traffic.
Simple solution they should not of offered live traffic if they cannot deliver, offer to 3rd parties. False advertising.
I dont need a lecture about coding how difficult it is. Its about what they promised from day one.
I appreciate the effort the people at Asobo are doing, and effort (I could not do it) by producing such an amazing sim, the matter of fact is, they should not of promised.
I use AIG on PC it was not confusing if you followed the simple instructions, just time consuming depending on what flightplans you wanted.