I will wait until SU2 before migrating to FS2024

Hi there,
For now, I’m still on FS2020, and listening to all feedbacks about the 2024.
I have seen all reported bugs and “in progress”-bugs.
I plan to wait for SU2 before buyuing FS2024.

Do you think that SU2 will be “enough fixed/completed” to have a “real” first stable version of FS2024?
Will be the performance & the career-mode acceptable at this time?

Do you think it will work on my machine? FS2020 was running good but worse and worse at each major updates.. because of cpu-limited. FS2024 should be better on this topic.

  • core i7 8700k (6 cores, up to 4.3 ghz)
  • 32 gb ram
  • ssd nvme
  • nvidia rtx 4070 ti 12 gb

thank you !

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SU2 will be a big decision point for me as well. I’m very curious to see what the early beta release notes will show when they are first posted.

In my brief time with MSFS2024 before refunding, I determined there needs to be a massive improvement in CTD’s and a wide ranging set of bug fixes on the stock aircraft before my interest comes back.

I don’t do VR so those reported SU2 fixes don’t move the needle for me.

I can wait longer for career mode to be properly implemented. I’ll stay with NeoFly4 until then.

I can’t purchase if there are regular CTD’s and stock planes I wanted to fly are still full of bugs.

I wonder if there needs to be, or perhaps will be, a focused AAU update like MSFS2020. I hope not. I hope the promises of regular streamed updates to planes actually materializes.

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It’s not a big deal, whatever you do. Stay with FS20 or move to FS24 or play both. You can wait if you want, but eventually whether its before SU2 or after SU10 you’ll move up to FS24 like most everyone else.

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It’s impossible to know, we don’t know what will make into SU2, and what will be for SU3 and future updates. For example, it was recognized that current ATC is a regression over 2020 ATC. They’re working on a new engine, but not sure if it will make it into SU2 or SU3. And there’s a myriad of bugs and inconsistencies everywhere, and the schedule isn’t easy to follow.

I’d personally wait for user reports on SU2, and then see if it’s worth it, or better wait for SU3.

I’m now testing a VFR flight in 2024, and procedural trees are extremely bad (the’re generating on top of mountains that in reality never had a single tree).

Can you see the tree line at the top of the mountain? Well this is the real place:

There was never a tree on top of it.

I’m not sure if this issues will make into SU2

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With that CPU even SU12 won’t save you. The sim is amazing, significantly better than 2020 and it’s not even close.

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Given your GPU outclasses your CPU by so much, I would move to MSFS 2024 sooner rather than later as it is better matched to such an imbalance.

All right, so what works in FS2024 when one makes the move

  1. GSX
  2. BATC
  3. Fenix
  4. Most 3rd party airports
  5. PMDG - work in progress with no ETA yet

For 3rd party airports, will just creating a simlink FS2024 community folder work?

My setup i1712700K, RTX3070, 32 Gigs RAM (DDR4, 3200MHz)

you can read what is going into SU2

January 16th, 2025 Development Update - Microsoft Flight Simulator

SU 2 beta changelog is already out there since Dec 27th

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All those green trees during our European winter in 2020… Since 2024 I cannot look at them anymore. I hardly start 2020 anymore. 2024 is pretty good in freeflight, but only if you have a good machine and don’t fly native airplanes (I only fly freeflight and use 3rd party planes).

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Yes, I know. I plan to change my cpu next year.. with -hopefull- the Intel Nova Lake..

And not only that. I am mostly flying in Germany and this aggressive placing of trees has ruined many small airfields with grass runways. Trees all over even on runways or blocking them completely.
In many places you can’t recognise villages from away because they look like forests with a house here and there. Roads and railway lines are buried in trees and many highway (autobahn) intersections are hardly recognisable any more because - you guessed it - they are hidden in trees. The VFR capabilities that once were there are significantly reduced now.

On FS 2020 that was so much better before the last world update.
As long as this isn’t fixed I can as well stay with 2020.
And I was so looking forward to do the switch.

Another point are the planes I am interested in. There’s only two of them. The Beech V35B and the A2A Comanche.
The Comanche is working somehow but not completely flawlessly.
I thought I’would be lucky because the Bonanza is an Asobo/Microsoft plane taken over from Carenado so that will work for sure and I could switch to 24 on day 1. How wrong.

Fazit: I can’t fly the planes I want to and I can’t land on many airfields I want to land on which pretty much means FS2024 is not yet for me.
I’ll continue to closely listen to all feedback and I really hope 24 is ready for me in June or July.
I am really very keen to do the switch.

Regards, Frank

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as of today not even SU1 is final. so for sure no SU2 changelog.

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Aside that it’s confirmed there isn’t something sure about SU2.

Latest dev stream said that ATC fixes might go into SU2 or SU3, not assured, just as an example.

That’s just showing what top bugs they are working on, it is not a list of what is going to be in SU2. Change lists are hundreds of items long. That’s what I want to see when SU2 Beta releases.

What would really be nice is a list of what SU2 will break as well. (2 1/2 years of bitter FS2020 experience talking)

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I’m not saying that shouldn’t bother you. It obviously does, because it’s something you pay attention to, and are willing to research. It’s your sim, and your flight, and you want the terrain to 100% replicate reality. I get that.

But for me, I just see trees. As long as they look like trees, and they aren’t floating on water, or in air, or growing out of a building, I don’t even notice them, other than to think, “Cool!”

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Erm no, never said anything about “100% replicate reality”. I said that trees are everywhere, even in places where in 2020 weren’t, which was fine. I said that procedural trees are much worse. It’s a known issue, reported and if my memory doesn’t fool me, bug logged. Check Frank’s comment here. Personally I don’t think it’s cool to see trees in places where there’s no way they can grow, where they aren’t in sat imagery, etc.

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Sorry, didn’t mean to misinterpret you. You didn’t like trees on top of a mountain that you know doesn’t have trees on it, i.e. the sim didn’t match reality.

Carry on. Happy Flying! :small_airplane:

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Nah don’t worry, just wanted to clarify that the issue isn’t with how close to reality mainly, but how the excessive amount is even worse than in 2020, which had already too many trees for example in frozen zones (around lukla and higher to name one).

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