The first benchmarks for Arrow Lake are just coming out.
The new Intel CPUs are bringing excellent progress in terms of power consumption compared to Raptor Lake.
However it seems they lag behind Ryzen CPUs in terms of power efficiency, with FPS numbers that are a bit disappointing:
Edit: adding Digital Foundry’s review:
Of course, what remains to be seen is how they will perform in MSFS 2024 relative to their competitors.
The reviews I have watched show it as a beast in productivity workloads, but behind several of AMD 7000/9000 options and even the 13900K/14900K in almost every game. Efficiency is much better this time around if that’s more important for you.
Gamers are not the target market of this cpu. So gaming benchmarks are kind of irrelevant.
That’s probably more due to where Intel knew they were ending up, so not by choice. I’m curious how they improve in the 300 series. I would bet they focus heavily on gaming. For better or worse, that drives a lot of mind share.
I’m still quite tempted by it as it will be a healthy step up from my 11900K. Though the 9000 series X3D chips are around the corner also. November 7th apparently.
I’m not overly concerned by the power consumption, though that might give some overhead for overclocking.
AMD 9800 X3D on November 7th,
MSFS 2024 on November 19th …
… Mmmhh, sounds like a plan 
First install 2024 and see how it runs on my pc’s than from there i will see if nessesary to upgrade.
It does not make sense to me before release 2024 to spent cash on new pc materials
and feel lame afterwards
Maybe MSFS 2024 will benefit from the AI stuff on the new intel chips and downloading info from the cloud. I read something earlier to the effect that the ai on the chip helps with processing cloud info. Is this true? If so how in the heck does that work?
Happy Landings,
P.S. Anyone try the Intel Core Ultra 7 265 yet?
If anything, the opposite – neural net co-processors are used to run machine-learning workloads on the local machine instead of running them in the cloud.
I would not expect these features to be relevant for MSFS in any way. Any “AI” that’s happening would be done by developers working on scenery generation at Asobo or a contractor, then saving the generated data to regular files to be served out by the cloud data “streaming”.
Rgr on the last ghostrider. I do appreciate the info. 1 more question could the ai on the chip be used for anything msfs related to enhance the hobby like atc, ai traffic or enhancing weather forecast?
Thanks & Happy Landings
The most likely thing to actually exercise an AI coprocessor is probably voice generation / voice recognition. (And being able to ‘talk at’ ATC would be a very nice addition, if that’s coming some day…)
Have there been any benchmarks on 285k in MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024 in 4K Ultra? Specifically interested in 5080 and 4090 performance. I know the 9800X3d will smoke it in 1080p, 1440p, and 4k with a 5090, but I’m primarily interested in 4K Ultra with either 5080 or 4090. Searching has yielded mixed/limited results.
I am AMD curious, but MSFS isn’t the only thing I use my computer for, so if I find the AMD chip handles MSFS very well, then find everything else runs like rubbish I won’t be very happy.
That has always been my choice in the past, and I have stuck to Intel because I know it will work with everything, and if its a bit slower than the latest AMD rival then so be it.
One thing is set in stone though, and I’m never getting an AMD GPU over Nvidia.
Yes, I wish there were more 285k comparison. No doubt that 9800x3d is better in MSFS - no doubt. It’s just is 285k “good enough” when paired with a 5080 or 4090 in 4K Ultra? Right now, my last opportunity to get a prebuilt with a 4090 at a price I can actually afford involves getting it with a 285k. So, would really like to understand 4k Ultra 285k benchmarks better in my primary games (MSFS 2020 and 2024).
3fps difference over what looks like New York between the 245K, 265K and 286K.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_uI4aFT_Rs
I’d be happy with 80fps. If the AMD chip gave 90, so be it. I’d be more interested in how it handles KSFO!
Huge differences on the AMD side here, but in 2020.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaKb4Uzmn88&t=205s
This one shows the 285K having a slight edge, but they are using different GPU’s, so not a pure CPU comparison. The Intel/Nvidia system shows slightly better results at both 1080p, and 4k though at 4k the difference is very small.