Yeah i checked that, VKB sell little bottles with 5 gram of the stuff they are using in the factory for about 10 Dollar but just for the Australia / New Zealand and Indian market…
The product is not available on their eu website, so they do not sell it for the eu market.
I even asked if i can order it from theyre other store but they denied, from that warehouse no shippings to Europe.
So i think my only chance to get the grease is to order a tube in the USA and hope that it doesn’t take too long or even gets here at all.
the problem is that it comes from England and since Brexit it’s not so easy to get anything across the border without some extra steps here in germany at all.
Most stuff from England now ends up at customs, the nearest customs office is 100km away from me and I can then drive there to redeem it, whereby 19% VAT and processing fees are incurred on top of the costs already paid.
They even have an extra section on the Brexit conditionality on the sellers website.
Optics greases and fader greases, likely to be available at least under the counter from relevant speciality shops that offer maintenance, are couple of alternatives you could try in that they offer similar quality of smooth heavy movement without being overtly sticky against small corrections.
But you might just end up paying nearly as much for something you don’t find quite as good, and since Nyogel 767A is actually available from European shops these days (as above) with non-hideous prices I’d just grab a tube.
Checked this thread because I also need some lube for my Virpil but I am in the US. I see there was a discussion on reddit with the same question 2 years ago. There doesn’t seem to be many options for you guys over there. I figure with all the engineering in Germany there would be tons of this stuff around.
I don’t know how it goes in Germany or US, but here in Finland you have several kinds of hardware stores and the ones that offer broader range of more exotic goods (often in oversized packages) only deal with registered businesses, not private individuals. Like at one point I tried to check if I can find lubricating PTFE tape locally, but no I can not except through these retailers. Kinda hampers the average customers attempts at this kind of thing.
I’m guessing, perhaps incorrectly, that the situation might be same in Germany and at least other Northern European countries, but not so much in US. In practice with Germany’s history with chemical industry and also in speciality industries that have relevant interests (like optics and musical equipment mentioned above) I suspect you could find something that’s just the thing (or even superior) locally, but nobody has done (or else has been unable to do) the legwork of finding out what’s it called and who makes it.
That is interesting. Here in the US our laws are pretty relaxed. As long as it isn’t a banned or strictly regulated substance you can pretty much buy anything. I just ordered a tube from Amazon 10 minutes ago.
Yes, I’ve ordered it now, it’s even a German shop, so it should arrive quickly and apparently the price of €30 for a 50 gram tube seems still reasonable.
Should be enough for a lifetime anyway ^^
I also assume that in the large mechanical industry that we have here in Germany, similar if not even better products should be found.
The problem is just finding the names of the products.
In Germany it has somehow gone out of fashion to service/repair things.
Unfortunately, everything tends to be bought new.
As a result, shops that offer such small things for repair and maintenance have gradually disappeared because it was no longer worthwhile for them.
This makes it more and more difficult for private individuals to get such material, since the only ones who still offer such things are wholesalers from whom private individuals cannot buy.
So even if I would find a German manufacturer that makes something similar like the Nyogel damping grease, chances are high that i wouldn’t find a shop that would sell it to me as a private person^^
Got my 50g Tube “Nyogel 767-A” from Micro-Tools Europe today.
Must say its just okayish…
I mean its dampening, but not nearly as strong as when the Stick had its original grease.
Would say the original grease the Stick had, when it was new, was like 3 times more dampening.
Better than nothing but still i had higher hopes.
I hope the dampening will probably improve over time, if the grease dries up a little bit, because if you get this stuff on your hands, man it gets stickier and stickier after some time.
So please don´t be stupid like me and wear gloves if you handle that grease
HA HA too late. I got mine 2 days ago and used a little for the bracket that holds the stick because it chatters. I only got a tiny bit on my hands and OH BOY does that stuff stick. Gloves are a must. I’m not too sure I want to use it on my Virpil Base anymore. I actually tore it down the night before and spread the existing grease in. I wasn’t expecting the tube until later this month, and I desperately needed to change the cams.
The original grease was also from NyoGel but much thicker than 767-A. The exact type that VKB used isn’t available to buy retail, but folks that have tried different types have said that NyoGel PG-44a is pretty close to what VKB used.
You can get some good stuff on eBay. Nyogel 767A has been replaced by the manufacturer by another damping grease, called Tribosyn Green, have a search for that, it works really well.
Buying a 50-gram tube of grease with your friends can be more cost-effective and practical compared to buying 1,2 or 5 gram from ebay
When you buy with friends, you can collectively share the cost and the product, making it more affordable for everyone. It’s a way to pool resources and save money together.
Buying a 50/100-gram tube is more convenient and efficient because you won’t have to restock as frequently. This is especially useful if you anticipate using the grease over an extended period.
In summary, buying a larger quantity of grease is often a more cost-effective and practical choice due to economies of scale, cost efficiency, and convenience.
