KPHX Sky Harbor STAR's Seem Off

I’m surprised no one has mentioned this but it seems like Sky Harbor has some odd procedures when landing on runways 25R, 25L, and 26. The screenshots below are for landing on 25L but it applies to 25R and 26 as well when using the HYDRR1 STAR. I’m certain other STAR’s aren’t accurate either. I just use HYDRR1 the most. It seems like there’s only two approaches and they’re way off of how you’re supposed to land using the HYDRR1 STAR. One makes you turn too far north and the other makes you turn too far south. I have Navigraph too so I’m confused why the data isn’t accurate at this airport. I was hoping Navigraph would’ve fixed the issue. Other than this one and KIWA, Navigraph’s data has been excellent.

Below is how you’re supposed to land using the HYDRR1 STAR.

Anyway to get a more realistic landing procedure? I’m guessing I would have to create the flight plan using something else other than the sim’s flight planner.

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It’s not Navigraph most likely. There are…oddities…in the AP routing and logic that neither NavData set can address. Think of the artificial USR waypoints being inserted when you plot certain flights or load approaches.

It’s probably going to get fixed by Working Title as they roll out the improvements pioneered in the CJ4 mod to G1000 NXi, and eventually to G3000 and G3X.

It’s because the base flight planner provides no accommodations for you to choose transitions.

If you look at your first screenshot, it’s planning the HYDRR1 arrival just fine. The issue is the RNAV 25L-Z approach only has one IAF in the system, ZERLO. It doesn’t recognize that you can pick it up at FIXAR, like what you’re likely seeing in the flight tracking screenshot you sent. Same thing is happening to you in the 25L-Y screenshot. It’s automatically assigning the closest IAF to your position, IWA. If you look at the charts, the positions are, in fact correct. They would just never be actually flown like that in real life. It’s entirely the fault of the extremely poor default flight planning system. If you use the WT CJ4, you can load up a flight without a flight plan, type all of it in, and manually choose your arrival and approach transitions, you can plan a route almost exactly like the tracking screenshot you posted.

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