Great to see the update - please keep them coming! The Hunter is a great foundation for a top tier aircraft.
Good to get such a quick update and great to get an integrated nav map!
Now we need to be able to enter basic VOR frequencies.
The AP doesnt seem to be improved for me. You can continue to turn it on via the cyclic but once you do your flight is over becuase there doesnt seem to be a way to turn it off. You can disable air speed, pitch and heading under utilities but the AP stays on and you start to descend to the ground wherever you are at the time.
Im ok with the flight model becuase I have no idea how the AH64 actually flys but Im wondering if it actually has super smooth and stable flight dynamics IRL?
All we know is that some have said that the Hunter and the DCS version have very different flight models so which is closer to actual?
I have tweaked the flight model cfg to get more challenging/less stable flight more like other MSFS helos but I dont know if thats what the goal is?
Any IRL Apache pilots out there?
There was a review about the DCS flight model from an actual Apache pilot on Helisimmer. Plenty of issues that don’t match the real thing.
The Helisimmer website seems to be broken right now but you can read the review via the Internet Archive:
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Thanks I will check it out. Should be interesting.
Please try to understand its NOT ME saying this! Its a real chinook pilot and it was when the chopper came out! HE was not wrong! Period!
I dont mean nor meant to say, he is wrong. I just can´t reproduce it with my current version.
Cheers
Thanks for the link, it is from 2022 and maybe thing in FM has changed or not, though this confirm me again what I am reading of real helicopters pilots through these MSFS helicopter years, and that if you activate nowadays some helicopters helps in the sim, it flies closer to the real aircraft hahaha, so maybe if the KwikFlight helicopter is easer to flight, maybe their flight model is closer to real one haha.
When I first tried this model, I found it almost impossible to fly.
It rolled over almost immediately shredding the rotor blades. This was the day after a flight in a real Apache, so I’m certain I didn’t forget how to fly them in the 18 hours or so between real flight and sim.
The cyclic was way too responsive, almost to the point of being sporadic. The pedals we equally over-sensitive during ground taxi, and all collective input seemed to be exaggerated as well. Nothing about this flight model resembled anything I’d ever flown, not to mention the helicopter I’d flown the day prior.
The ease with which DCS models enter into VRS is terribly unrealistic. This is compounded by the fact that now some simmers who don’t quite understand VRS or have never experienced it in real life now believe this is a realism benchmark and it’s one of the things that makes DCS helicopters so good. I assure you It is not.
I love this bird. Could it be more realistic? Probably! But it’s already great value for the price, with the excellent modelling, the Echo 19 soundset and the mission feature.
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Would be great if someone could contact him nowadays, and ask for the actual DCS Apache FM and what he thinks in this new Apache FM etc., and post it here, or even KwikFlight contact to improve their Apache.
Awesome pics…can not wait for the Xbox Version..
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You mean a great ‘Army’ livery …RAF don’t use them 
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Oops, at least I didn’t say navy 
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But they (Royal Army Apaches)operate from british carriers.. correct me If i am wrong…thats pretty cool…
Yep, they certainly have in the past …so I assume they still would do if needed.
In the the UK, the Army is just the Army, its only the Navy and Air Force that have the ‘Royal’ prefix.
I think the reason is that the Army is still made up of many separate regiments, and has never been a ‘single’ force as such.
A lot of the individual regiments have a ‘Royal’ prefix, but not the Army as a whole!
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I rewatched Fire Birds (aka Wings of the Apache) last night. It’s a somewhat silly Top Gun rip-off with Nicholas Cage being very much Nicholas Cage, for better or worse.
Either way, there is lots of awesome real cinematography of the actual Apache (without radar dome) showing off some impressive maneuvering. Probably still the best source to get some 2nd hand impressions about how it moves through the air, what it can and can’t do, other than airshows.
The Longbow radar didn’t exist until the AH-64D which was introduced in 1997, several years after the film.
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This bird really needs an option to mute the “Altitude Low” warning. Yeah, no kidding, lady, this is a low level hide behind hills attack helicopter! Annoying as hell! 
EDIT: also, trim please! 
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Turn off warning sounds in the sim audio settings