Live Traffic on the world map & EFB does not match with live traffic once spawned

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
Live traffic displayed on the world map & EFB does not match with the traffic into the sim once spawned

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? always

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. enable real-time online
  2. setup aircraft traffic quantity/quality on high or ultra
  3. go to the world map, select a large airport with traffic, open the EFB
  4. check that live aircraft on the world map match the ones on the EFB
  5. spawn at the airport, note that there no or few live aircraft (depend of the time you perform the test) that don’t match what you have on the world map and the EFB

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? no

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX2060

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor (3.60 GHz)
RAM 16GB

MEDIA



I believe live traffic on the EFB has never worked properly since MSFS 2024 was released - at least that’s my recollection. The mismatch works both ways: aircraft on EFB which are not visible in the sim and aircraft visible in sim but not present on the EFB.

Quite often airborne traffic will appear to completely freeze on the EFB meaning they’d be hovering several 100 feet in the air! Note that these hovering aircraft are not visible in the sim when I have attempted to locate them.

Hello, when im on the map i can see all the “moving” aircraft of real world traffic but when i spawn only a part of them are visible. Sometimes they simply despawn randomly on taxiways or runways.

Once they take off they disappear and I see no airplane on the sky, nor contrails or lights, and they aren’t even visible on the TCAS radar. They reappear after landing.

Could you also add in the title that airplanes aren’t visible in the sky

Aircraft traffic in SU5 is still hurtable. Very few movements, not realistic at all.

This isn’t a new bug - it’s been like this for a long time and I’m pretty sure it was also present in SU4.

Have you tried cross-checking the traffic against FlightAware or Flightradar? It might turn out that some of those aircraft simply weren’t actually there in real-world data at that time, which would explain the mismatch between the world map / EFB and what you see on the ground.

Yes, not new but has never been reported, so here it is :slight_smile: .
Checking against FR24 at KJFK Terminal 5 at 17:13 local and what’s is displayed in the EFB & world map seems pretty accurate:
FR24 shows 10 aircraft at T5:


EFB & world map show 7 aircraft at T5:

But upon spawning, no aircraft at all:

After waiting some minutes, an aircraft DAL2443 show up:


But it does not exist in FR24 at this position:

Conclusion: live traffic on the EFB & world map is the current one (even if some discrepancies may exist) and live traffic is missing or may be wrong once you spawn into the sim.
I have the aircraft quantity/variety set to ultra.

Edit: after a couple of more minutes, this time there is a right aircraft JBU1528, but still 9 aircraft are missing at T5,


You are correct. It may not be a new bug, but it’s frustrating because they said “improved traffic” with SU5.

Real-time traffic?

I can confirm this issue.

Hello, I was given a link to this topic by a person under my post about the traffic problem.
I also created a similar discussion, a PS game, and I can confirm that the planes in the menu and the planes in the flight mode are not fully displayed, even though I haven’t changed any settings.
It all started when I received the new SU5 update.

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: No airplanes visible in simulation when live traffic is turned on although the traffic airplanes are visible on the world map

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Always

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Play in free flight mode or just any mode

  2. Activate live traffic via the parameters

  3. No live rendering of any traffic airplane shows

YOUR SETTINGS

PS5 non pro