I bet that’s probably it. I wish people would stop buying their stuff until they released them without such obvious bugs. I really love World War II era aircraft and I would have jumped on this if it wasn’t inibuilds. Because of that I waited for reviews and here we are…
I agree regarding the ratings as not only are we unable to answer depending on game version, but also interior and exterior are combined. It’s frustrating as I want to give high marks for how the cockpit looks whereas the weathering effect on the exterior is very displeasing to my eye.
I’m a long time history and warbird fan with a soft spot for the Boomerang so was very excited for this (happy memories flying a freeware one in older games that was taken over by AH or Just Flight) I hope the issues can be fixed.
There are several bug reports for the Boomerang, but each has 3 or 4 votes only.
I’ve now voted, thank you. I’m still getting used to the forum.
Is there meant to be a sound for the inertia starter like on the real aircraft? I’m not hearing it when pulling the handle (Xbox 2024).
Weathering is a subjective thing, some people like it, some don’t. Given it’s “Working as designed” there’s very little chance you’ll see a change there. Easy enough to rectify with a livery, though. Maybe you can convince somebody on FS.to to create a clean livery for you.
Edit: And then I noticed you’re on Xbox… sorry.
I live in hope Xbox gets free repaints one day! As a model builder I’m very familiar with the differing tastes around weathering. In this case it doesn’t seem terribly well done, at least in my opinion.
Another sim issue - can anyone see the propeller blades change pitch when the engine is off? Mine are visually stuck in fine.
Should they? Are you familiar with this particular propeller? Many props of the day would stay in fine with no hydraulic pressure. But it all depends on the particular prop. But it makes sense that is what the propeller would default too if the mechanism failed.
Edit: All the pictures I see of parked aircraft have the prop in fine pitch.
From the ‘Manual of Operating Instructions’ (p.36)
Stopping the Engine
(a) For Short Periods: Set propeller control in the High R.P.M. (Low Pitch) position.
(b) For Long Periods: Set propeller control in Low R.P.M. (High Pitch) position.
Setting the actuator in the cockpit is one thing.
Do you have the propeller make and model?
What is the prop pitch actuating mechanism? Is it hydraulic, or is it a mechanical mechanism?
If it’s hydraulic, does it retain pressure with the engine off, bleed immediately, or does it bleed slowly over time?
I just checked again over a larger range of pictures. I found 2 pictures with it in course pitch.
The prop is a Hamilton Standard 3T50 constant speed with a pitch range of 20° (low 24°, high 44°).
Governer is a Hamilton Standard Type I.P.12A.
Edit: it’s a 3T50
As the manual states how to set the prop control before stopping the engine I think thia setting will be retained after engine stop.
You’re correct
Given the mechanism is hydraulic, it may be that FS doesn’t have the facility for the hydraulic system to retain pressure when the engine isn’t running. I imagine the reason they say to put it in fine for long periods is because the system would bleed out over time, anyway in real life?
I’ve no personal experience with hydraulic props, so this is a big learning curve for me, I found it odd the pitch wouldn’t change whereas it does on the Milviz FG-1D and other aircraft.
Also I have made a major mistake - I meant “my” Boomerang (rented Xbox 24) prop is in coarse when the engine is not running. I’m very embarrassed and sorry for the confusion.
Ok.I don’t own the plane yet, and it made sense to me it would be in fine postion when not running. But, as @kaha300d noted, the real flight manual does say to leave it in course position when parked for short periods. So that may have been the author’s choice when modeling the plane.
I do have experience with hydraulically-controlled constant-speed props and basically every other flightsim aircraft that allows you to change prop pitch while the engine is shut down is set up incorrectly.
Prop pitch can generally only be directly controlled by changes in oil pressure (along with the impact of springs, fly-weights, etc) but that requires the engine to be running. There were some very early variable-pitch-prop setups that were directly manually controlled but even then they were dampened.
With a lack of oil pressure, props can “fail” (failing, in this case, meaning to lose oil pressure due to an engine failure or shutdown) to one of two states - either full coarse (towards feather) or full fine. Generally a multi-engine aircraft will have the props fail to full coarse and move towards feather to reduce drag on the dead side. And generally a single-engine aircraft will have the prop fail to full fine to aid in the possibility of a restart since it’s your only engine.
As for this model naturally resting at coarse regardless, I’ve seen more oddball things done by various devs with regards to props and that is likely one of them. Things as recent as the B-25 load in with the props in full feather, for example.
The Boomerang instructing the pilot to shut it down at full coarse for short periods is likely to remove some of the oil from the sump to reduce resistance for a restart. That’s my theory anyway.
As informative and interesting as all this is - and I do mean that - are other people seeing their prop only at coarse pitch when the engine isn’t running? My rental period has expired so I can’t take a screenshot, and I’m thinking I should wait for the various bugs to be ironed out before buying.
I hope others are making the most of it.
I mean, I gotta say, the angle of the prop blades when the engine is turned off is super at the bottom of my priorities for fixes compared to stuff like Tiny Pilot, the canopy issue, and systems that actually affect the plane’s operation in flight.
It’s like dating a famous 50’s movie star and complaining about her mole, when addressing the mental health, substance abuse, and Presidential philandering issues might be of a little greater concern. ![]()
Agreed, while certainly interesting given the other issues with the 2024 version it’s not super important at the moment. I’d much prefer they fixed things like the fuel not drawing from the tank selected on the switch.
However, in the interests of providing information, I can confirm that the 2020 version does allow the prop pitch to be changed while the aircraft is cold & dark and this behaviour seems common across many AH warbirds (I know the P-47 does it and I believe their latest release, the Mosquito, does it too).
Where did you find the manual?