I give up with logbook. Don’t know nothing anymore.
Logbook isn’t correctly logging flights. I take off from somewhere, land successfully at destination, doesn’t record it. Take of, land at destination, it records it as a 15 min flight landing somewhere completely different.
Not working right.
My experience of 1.10.8.0 is that landing, taxi-ing as instructed and shutdown correctly (all as per flight plan, ATC clearance and gate allocation) logs automatically in the background.
That’s what I expect from a training simulator.
I’m not suggesting anyone is not flying well, it just feels like there is an instructor beside you expecting high standards.
EDIT: I don’t get the popup logbook window much. It records silently; after ending the flight I check the logbook and the flight is recorded.
Unfortunately it’s not working as intended. If it was an issue following ATC then you’d at least see the takeoff or landing shown as in the vicinity of those runways. At the moment you can get a destination that is 100km or more away from where you have been.
By all means score how well you followed protocols but even following them doesn’t allow the log book to update for all (see those who crash and it logs perfectly).
Even if you didn’t park up correctly for example you’ve still landed and that should be shown.
It never worked in the current way in testing nor a couple of patches back.
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Besides fixing some of the likely low level “Log Book” location bugs … perhaps there needs to be:
- explicite “Log Book” algorithm mode setting:
- game
- training simulator
- … and some real explanation beside those settings to explain how the algorithm is implemented
With the upcoming Xbox release I feel that many people will be really frustrated if they simply can not get their flight “logged” … and they can not find out “why”
The process should not be too complicated for people who try to learn how the game works.
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I did a 25 minute A320nx flight, landed with clearance and followed the blue taxiway arrows that the sim displayed, parked and shutdown.
However, I forget to get ATC clearance for taxi and parking. Out of interest I requested clearance and to my surprise the blue arrows moved a few hundred meters away. The logbook had the flight with the “vicinity” flag and the landing column with 0.
So my bad as I parked in the wrong place, without clearance, which is serious for a passenger jet. Next time I’ll get ATC clearance for taxi and parking to see if “vicinity” flag goes away.
I guess if you head North, pick up the magic wand and find the Wizard, ASOBO will give extra points ha ha. 
Just wondering if anyone knows what time the logbook is logging? Is it system time, based on time you start or end flight? What happens if you change time during flight?
Sometimes I have to park in box , shut off engine and avionics to get ending log to trigger. Other times it seems to trigger by itself.
I just did a short flight and it did not trigger, but I did not shut avionics so I think that is why? Looks like it is in the logbook, but time is showing 6pm ish and it’s only noon here. So I think it’s logging time in flight. Not sure what it does with the date.
I don´t understand this logbook. Today I fly up side down. The flight wasn´t recorded at all in logbook but I get it logged for “longest flight upside down”. Start and landing at small airports.
It is clear that for it to register flights (and it does not always do so) it must be done with the sim’s ATC,
I fly with P2ATC and a few days ago it has not registered any flights, today I have done it with the ATC of the sim, and it registers them, it is a big mistake, it must register all the flights you do from A - B as in any other sim.
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Log book time has not worked or any logs since the day of last update… No update to time flown since that day 203hrs at the time, and despite flying 4-5hrs daily since then no flight logged or time increase.
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I have never used ATC and my logged flights are 50%. No flights would log yesterday today one logged.
Problem is its bugged and needs to be fixed. You should not have to jump through hoops just to get your flight time on the books.
This is a correct statement!!
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Flight logging, as others have mentioned, is definitely tied to the objectives system. But that system has some quirks.
When the destination is an uncontrolled field, landing and exiting the runway will immediately trigger the End Flight objective. Shutting the avionics and engine off at this point will bring up the debrief screen and log the flight as you’d expect. You don’t even have to be at a parking spot (towered fields are another matter).
However, I’ve discovered that re-entering a runway (any runway, even the one you just landed on) after the End Flight objective appears will change your objective to something like “taxi to the active for takeoff”. Shutting down the airplane at this point will not trigger the debrief screen, and exiting to the menu will not log the flight properly (either no entry at all, which seems more common after the latest patch, or a partial “vicinity of” entry).
I think this is a reason the logging behavior appears inconsistent when the destination is an uncontrolled field. Turnaround aprons don’t count as “runway” to the sim, for example (if you use one, you’ll likely exit and re-enter the runway from the sim’s perspective, replacing the End Flight objective with the takeoff one). If you taxi across a runway on your way to the ramp, same result- the objective will change.
There’s a few workarounds. The easy one is to simply never re-enter any runways after exiting the active prior to shutdown. Sometimes you won’t be able to reach the ramp (unless you’re okay with a grass detour), but at least your flight will log. You can also get the End Flight objective back by taking off and landing again, which may or may not be a big deal depending on what you’re flying.
Towered fields work differently and seem much more consistent, as long as you use the in-game ATC and park where they expect you to. You can cross all the runways you want as part of the taxi instructions, and the objectives system won’t get confused.
So the core issue seems to be that the objectives system works in a non-intuitive way in some situations, affecting flight logging.
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My experience as related in a post above.
Doesn’t work that way for me.
What is clear is that all these theories on why the logbook isn’t working really don’t matter in the long run.
The fact is that it is inconsistent and does not work the way the a logbook should work. That is you are the pilot in command when the engine starts until it stops. That is the time that NEEDS TO BE LOGGED. We should be able to add comments such as landings, touch and goes, etc.
In real life I only put in touch and goes. I never bothered to put in landings unless it was something interesting like IFR.
The information is being generated by the Sim. If you run Little Nav Map, you will see that the little Navmap logbook is listing your time and the airports you land at - regardless of flight plan.
Maybe someone with programming experience can make a simple logbook app that will record flight time correctly.
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I agree with @Spirit539 that using ATC or meeting “hidden” objectives should not be a requirement for getting entries in the Log Book.
But I think what people have been trying to figure out here (by observing) is what might be influencing the internal game behavior … = bug.
I have to confirm(for 1.10.8.0), that if I use ATC and follow the objectives my success rate for getting log book entries goes ups. So from that I would suspect that the ATC subsystem has a more reliable way of injecting the “log book action markers” into the log book system.
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This is exactly what I have seen in my experience.
Steps I follow:
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To ensure take-offs are logged, use ATC whether it is a towered or uncontrolled airport. Make sure you ‘complete’ your taxi at the correct point, either by using the taxi ribbon or keeping the objective window open.
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To get a landing logged at a towered airport, use ATC and do your shutdown in the assigned parking spot. You’ll get the pop-up/debrief screen once you shutoff engines and avionics. It doesn’t seem from posts that many people are having issues at towered airports logging landings if they shutdown in the correct parking spot (again, easier if you use the ribbon).
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To get a landing logged at an uncontrolled airport, land, slow down on the runway to ensure you will be able to control the aircraft on the taxi way, and exit the runway. If you follow theses steps, you can shutdown both engine and avionics even still on the taxiway to get the debrief window and have the landing logged. In my tests, using ATC does not make a difference. The issue I have seen at non-towered airports is if I had a poor landing or somehow let the plane drift off the side and re-enter the runway, after exiting the runway, my shutdown does not trigger the popup window or the landing in the logbook. The best way to monitor if you’re following the process at an uncontrolled airport is to have your objectives window open. If the objectives tell you to taxi to runway for takeoff, then you either left the runway and came back on or something else interrupted the shutdown process and you will not get a landing logged. The only way to remedy at this point is to fly a circuit and land again. If you are following the process, you should have an objective to reduce speed to 15kts and exit to taxiway, with the next one being end of flight.
Note I’m not saying this is the correct process or is working as intended. This is just the process I follow that I’ve had a 100% success rate since I worked it out. Whether this is the correct process or a workaround and should be corrected is up to the designers.
That was always what I implied, even if I didn’t explicitly state it. That I have no problems with logging, I just work within the constraints that I have observed.
Thanks for this detailed explanation. I admit I haven’t paid any attention to the objectives list, I haven’t referred to it for any flight. I have had mixed results about logging flights, I have used ATC for entire flights but got no credit for the landing at tower or non tower airports. I have logged both VFR and IFR flights successfully but others, even with ATC and correct parking at designated spot received no landing credit and since last update no credit for 3 of the 5 flights. The last 2 flights, 1 full IFR and ATC, the second VFR but ATC at take off, en route, and destination, I received no landing credits and different from all my other flights that were logged, only logged a few minutes of flights, one of 1.5 hours, the second more than 2 hours. In both cases the log showed vicinity arrivals even though they were both at tower controlled airports. I’m going to try future flights using your advice to refer to the objectives for every flight and see if logging take offs, landings and flight time become more complete. Thanks for your posting.
i can’t believe this is still an issue with this game that hasn’t gotten fixed.
personally, i don’t even care anymore as i’ve moved on to a much better logbook.
if anyone is interested:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/logbook-no-longer-works/294863/10
I have the same issue. And for doing the achievements its very frustrating. Yesterday a did an 3 hour flight, logbook says 1 hour 20 min…
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