Logitech/ Saitek Throttle Quadrant Jitter / Twitching

Hey everyone.

There have been a number of threads about this product and FS2020 but generally they all date back to last year and none of them appear to offer up a solution to this widespread problem.

Straight out of the box I’m experiencing twitching and jittering on all three axis. They all hit the 0 and 100% points just fine, but any other setting and the in-game depiction of throttle, prop pitch and mixture will constantly move back and forth. Looking at the in game configuration menu I am seeing something very similar to this video…

I’m aware this isn’t an expensive product (the cheap feeling plastic is testament to that) but to have this out of the box for a new product is not really acceptable.

Has anyone found a solution, an in-game setting or a method of calibration that rectifies the issue. Is this a problem that blights this product in general, or do some people own one that works as it should?

I’m tempted to send it back and ask for a replacement, but can’t really be bothered if I’m just going to get another with exactly the same problem.

Many thanks.

Interesting, I have this product too and I don’t have the issue…

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Menu > Options > Controls > select joystick / throttle > on the left side sensitivity , add some percentage to the dead zone of the axis used.

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That in itself is helpful. Have you adjusted the sensitivity/deadzones or anything in any way?

See my own vid.

No I didn’t touch that part, only buttons assignment & reverse to “toggle rev when down then up again”.
Yours sounds like a HW issue.
Maybe cheap plastic and such, but until I can afford a Honeycomb quad, I am fully satisfied with the product :slight_smile:

Yeah, it’s perfect for what I want. I think I’ll get it replaced then, sounds like I got a duff one.

I see that is the yoke in the video. Is the throttle the same?

If it were not a new product I’d open the box and remove as much of the wax on the potentiometers as possible and use a hypodermic syringe to inject each with denatured alcohol. Move them up and down and through the detent switches a few times and that will resolve it for a while. I have to do this periodicaly. The potentiometers are absolute rubbish and build up some kind of residue quite quickly that upsets their electrical properties.
So, get your money back if you are able.

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Yes, the Logitech Pro Flight yoke and quadrant is a very cheap product.
But mine is now about 25 years old and despite all the usage it has had it still performs perfectly!

Have you actually set up / calibrated it from within Windows first [Control Panel/Devices and printers].
If that doesn’t work apply a little isopropyl alcohol to the potentiometers.

FWIW I got a replacement and it suffers from the same problem.

Such a shame.

That really is bad news. I suggests to me that the pots are already soiled in some way. Mine is quite a few years old now, and is steady as a rock for a week or two of use after doing the alcohol treatment.

Hi. From what I can there is no option to actually calibrate this device anywhere.

Any suggestions greatly received. It seems bonkers that there is no way to refine these things anymore.

In-game it seems like things such as ‘sensitivity’ simply refine the curve, rather than lower or boost the actual sensitivity.

Hi again.

First plug the yoke into your computer [always use the same USB port when doing this]. Your computer should have made a pinging noise when doing this!

Go to ‘Control Panel’/‘Devices and printers’. An icon labelled ‘Flight Yoke System’ should now be visible.

Now right click on the icon and double click on ‘Game Controller Settings’.
You should now be able to see the calibration screen.

Be aware also that you will need to download and install the Flight Yoke System
Software Version: 8.0.213.0 from here: Downloads - Flight Yoke System – Logitech Support + Download.

I hate the detents. I don’t have room on the front of my desk to clamp it. I’ve removed the mtg. bracket and put a layer of rubber on the bottom with double stick tape to keep it from sliding too much. Then I’ve jammed some foam into the bottom of the slots to keep them from going lower than 0%. Half the size, all the functionality.

Hey,

I’ve done all of that (numerous times! :smile:). When I click on the ‘Game Controller Settings’ I’m only getting 2 options…‘Test’ and ‘Deadzones’. Back in the day there used to be a calibration option there too but it seems to have disappeared in Windows 10.

To the best of my knowledge ‘Test’ is the way to calibrate the range of motion after running the regedit software from Saitek and that does work in determining the 0-100% range correctly. There is nothing that allows you to dial out this jitter.

I think the next port of call will have to be a support ticket with Logitech. It would help if FS gave you the option just to dial down the overall sensitivity of a controller input!

The jitter is almost certainly caused by wear and tear to the axis potentiometers and, as such, is nothing to do with with MSFS 2020.
And if your yoke is out of it’s warranty period Saitek will not help you, I’m afraid.

So, short of replacing it with a new one [currently £140 from Currys/PC World] you can attempt a little of maintenance by carefully opening the device and working some isopropyl alcohol into the potentiometers. This usually works, at least for a while.

Good luck.

Thanks.

You’ll be surprised to know that both examples were brand new out of the box (one from Currys, one from Amazon. The latter has gone back as in addition to the jitter, 2 of the 3 levers were loose when idle). This is why, in my eyes at least, it’s completely unacceptable.

I hope I’m wrong but I reckon they’re selling refurbs as new and must be selling these products knowing they’re crocked straight away. We (the customer) shouldn’t have to be dismantling brand new products to get them to work.

ps Thanks for the help! :raising_hands:t2:

I can only agree with all you have said.
I too suspect that returned and or refurbished items are being touted and sold as new.

My own yoke continues to give good service after 25 [ish] years of use and abuse.
So don’t drop your standards.

I hope you get this sorted out to your satisfaction.

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Will do.

Thanks again.

Hi! I guess it depends on what aircraft you use, but those detents are ideal switches for thrust reversers, spoilers etc. Understand your limitations though.

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