First of all, really love what I’ve seen so far. Grand Tetons are on another level now so thanks a lot.
However I get lots of terrain spiking after WU22. Seen both in Olympic National Park and Redwood National Park but presumably visible in any parks with similar terrain.
Coordinate or location of issue: N47.482/W123.858
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
Every time with photogrammatry on.
REPRODUCTION STEPS
Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
Deleted rolling cache (manually) no change.
Disabled displacement mapping, no change.
Disabled photogrammatry, spikes disappeared.
Downloaded and installed the WU22 scenery, no change.
Removed all mods, clean Community folder, no change.
YOUR SETTINGS
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No.
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
RTX 5090
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
Definitely looks like a mesh issue. This is with the scenery downloaded and drawing distance reduced to expose the mesh, so no streaming issue or ddr4 data limitation issue.
Ok so it turned out to be the Orbx Library that was causing the issue so it’s not a Microsoft issue. I’ve deleted all North American airports addons and that fixed it.
I will take this to the Orbx forums and use this thread as to highlight the issue.
I noticed the same problem in Redwood NP (as noted). I flew to “Tall Trees Grove” and there are indeed many very tall trees with great detail even up close. But interleaved with the trees are many tall, narrow rock spires. Maybe terrain spikes, maybe mis-rendered trees, but they go on for miles (but not everywhere). I did not attempt any detailed detective work as the topic author did, but I wanted to report a second instance of the problem. Other than this “petrified forest” effect, everything I’ve explored in WU22 looks amazing.
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It’s not just forested or heavily forested areas.
I’ve been working my way through the WU22 list and all the following images were taken within the first few minutes of flying around in the Jetson/Astro. They are NOT hard to spot, they’re pretty much everywhere once you see them.
Issues noted:
Seam lines joining meshes (it seems)
Low resolution angular meshes
Blobs on terrain that could be bushes/trees miscategorized as rocks or ?
Ugly, blotchy, unrealistic ground textures. Colors are off, contrast is off, and consistency is off due to the basic processing of satellite imagery not removing shadows, trees, etc
No creek/river edge blending
Floating trees/bushes
Lots more. Once you see it it’s hard to unsee.
A lot of these issues become less of an issue the higher you are, but if terrain and environment are highly promoted as a key feature for low level VFR/STOL and/or ground exploration they quickly become major issues for multiple reasons. I’ve seen these issues on both SU Beta 6 and Live version, so don’t think they are related to that, generally.
OTOH, there is also some amazing detail in other areas (eg: Grand Teton What did you do in MSFS today? (Part 3) - #3399 by Sonicviz) where the AI processing and procgen all “worked” (more or less) as it seems the base terrain had less of the material that generates these artifacts with the current tech, so they look fantastic.
So, the potential is there, obviously a technological WIP so just posting these as feedback. Location wise QA/Dev Team should be collecting these issues themselves with their own testing so I can’t imagine they are not aware of them. It’s not hard to do.
Impressive wind animation on the Joshua trees though!
The red/yellowish marked ones in the table below are where I have noticed these issues the most. Helps to have ultra settings for trees, bushes, grass etc. Green areas still have the same issues, but not to the degree of the red/orange ones, at least from my quick survey.
For comparison, here’s some real-life images that show some ground texturing I would be expecting to see, which is why the sim ones can be so harsh on the eyes at times.
Its not just an issue in the national parks itself it also expands to way around redwoods national park. ontop of that there is also a bugged area of ocean near the redwoods national park.
I’ve noticed the same. Crater Lake, Mt Hood, and North Cascades all look pretty bad in this regard. Mt Lassen as well, except the Dixie fire of 2021 burned down the majority of the forests surrounding the park. But what remains looks like this with the spikes.
Also, some of the TIN areas are much larger than we might be expecting. It would help us test this if Asobo published the actual dimensions of the upgraded areas.
