My biggest gripe with msfs in VR is that while flying bushflights for instance, where you can’t have the floating POI markers active, I have no idea what I am flying past. Even in my own country all I see is “pretty scenery”. I want to know what I am looking at out the windows. I have tried fsmp vfr map, but the text in VR is so tiny it is almost impossible to read, and it has no course indicator or any other overlays. Is there an addon that has both, place names and flightplan display/overlays, and which has readable text when in VR?
sky4sim works pretty well for me in VR.
I’ve been pondering getting this other one but have not got it yet.
https://flightsimulator.me/
for a while I was using the bing map in the premium version of PMS50 GTN, it worked at one time but after a sim update it and other all became tiny text in VR which is why I went back to sky4sim which is very clear in VR.
I love Sky4Sim. But if you use Little NavMap for flight planning, the VR add-on is a really good alternative.
Little Navmap VR Panel for Microsoft Flight Simulator | MSFS
Thanks for these suggestions. I’ll give them a go when I get home later. I’ll reply back here with my experience. As a total beginner readability and ease of use will probably trump feature set. We’ll se. I have used LittleNavMap to create some flight plans so integration might be a bonus.
Sky4Sim has a Free version. Sky4Sim Pad NG – Free - Sky4Sim: Microsoft Flight Simulator all in one addon
So you can check it beforehand. It comes with various maps like Bing (also a Dark version) and also OpenStreetMap. At any time, you can blend in the weather layer and an Arial map layer and many more. You are able to load your MSFS flight plan “on the fly” or create your own. The font size is adjustable .It has lots of helpful tools/navigraf integration. In the Vid, you can see me adding the taxi instruction:
FSKneeboard (paid add-on)
or
All-in-one tablet (paid add-on)
or
Nabigraph Charts (requires subscription)
I use both All-in-One Tablet and Little Navmap VR Panel. The All-in-One Tablet has quite a few options it can display (and of course is payware) but IMO doesn’t do a very good job with its Little Navmap feature. Therefore I tend to favour the Little Navmap VR Panel, which has a number of excellent settings to make it very useable. I just have to remember to set up Little Navmap as I need it before going into VR, things like Controlled Airspace, level of display options, User Viewpoints etc.
All-In-One Tablet has excellent VNC feature allowing controlling and seeing the desktop of another PC (old notebook in my case) on which I can run anything, including any mapping software I want.
really? VNC works in VR from this tablet?
Thanks for the link, but have you used it in VR, does it work well?
For example is the VNC usability good enough to use a VATSIM client in VR?
It might also help on this other thread here: PilotEdge VR client?
Maybe he could run Pilot Edge on another pc.
Yes, you can run any software on another PC and use it from the tablet. The only thing required is that graphics acceleration be disabled.
All in One has several own styles to choose from for displaying Little Navmap. We must configure in LittleNavmap what style we want to display. Then the app will show exactly what is in the LNM directly. The interesting thing about All in One is not having several open windows floating around, which lose the immersion in VR. It is better to have it integrated into the tablet.
Thank you for the input here. I tried (and bought) sky4sim and the littlenavmap vr panel yesterday. Between them they do everything I need very well (littlenavmap does a hell of a lot more than I will probably ever need, but I can still use it to do the basic stuff I want).
VR tablet is more than I need atm, but will be bookmarked in case I need something like that in the future. (In Norway we have a saying for overkill: you are shooting sparrows with cannons)
Any of these have the “drawing tablet” feature like FSKneeboard ?? You can purchase a cheap tablet and actually write on it with a stylis. I’m looking into it because I CANNOT write with my mouse. Example is when Vatsim ATC gives you heading/altitude/speed until established cleared to land. If I try to write that with a mouse … well it would not be pretty.
OpenKneeboard has best graphics tablet support. Stylus is completely independent from the mouse, even tablet buttons are operational. This makes it much better than FSKneeboard.
For maps I use AllinOne tablet from Fligthsimulator.me (to display and control SkyDemon running on another PC controlled with VNC), FSKneeboard (for topographic charts, for fully manual flying with GPS map tracking disabled) and Navigraph Charts (for airport charts on VATSIM).
https://www.flightsimulator.me/
I use all of them simultaneously. Great feature of OpenKneeboard - you can configure it to disappear when you are not looking at it.
Other panels - I have buttons on the yoke configured to make them visible or invisible.
So you actually write using a stylus on a separate tablet ?? And will this work with the Pimax Crystal. I know very little about direct3D and/OpenXR.
And I find the reference to voiceattack interesting although I did not see how it would work. I was thinking about voiceattack anyway (with a copilot) to help with the workload
With OpenKneeboard I can use any headset (I tested with Pimax Crystal) and even the cheapest Wacom tablet (check in the manual what tablets are supported other than Wacom). It’s very well documented, I recommend reading the manual to learn all functions (zooming by looking at, showing by looking at, dual kneeboards like a fighter pilot - one on each knee, multiple tabs, handling multipage pdfs, annotating pdfs, night view with reduced brightness, assigning buttons on the tablet if the tablet has some and more).
Writing with the stylus on the tablet is completely separated from the mouse cursor movements, I keep the stylus in my shirt pocket and use it when I need to write. This way, with the headset donned, I always can easily find my stylus.
For voice control there are many options, one is Voice Attack, personally I used Axis and Ohns as my main inputs binding solution, which also supports voice recognition.
I like this one, but i may be a bit biased: