Over the atlantic
What changes are mentioned they fixed in beta release notes? I could only see popins of clouds mentioned of the clouds in the release notes.
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https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/wiki-sim-update-12-release-notes/575856?u=hamman2118
^Release Notes Link
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I have tested a bit, canât see any difference, after no fixes in live weather mentioned in the release notes (bugs that are logged in this section of the forum)
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I understand weather fixes in SU12 are only focused on thermals improvements to provide a mvp (minimal viable product) for gliders pilots so they can use the sim. It is a good decision and all will benefit of those improvements. I hope next SUs will be focused on fixing METARS, clouds, layers, transitions, wind issues for general aviation and airliners pilots.
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I miss these kind of skies so much!
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Technically changes in thermals is considered changes in weather. 
Thermals affect weather and cloud behavior very very much. Clouds are driven by winds, so if the wind is behaving more realistically the clouds will fall in line.
To SealedVolcano who said they didnât see any difference, I disagree. As I stated the lower atmosphere looks quite improved having spent over an hour hopping around and searching for different layered airports around the world. The upper level above FL250 still needs some changes as that seems to be more or less the same. But the lower levels, levels affected by thermals are quite improved. Iâll try and do some flying later on today and get a better overall picture. But I like what I see. For me which I will test later will see if when I cross back over the Pacific if the weather will still inject past the 5 hour mark.
if you see here Very abrupt weather (wind) transition. Erratic wind behavior (Still present after AAU 1) - #392 by TomL7753
the guy is experiencing what i have been seeing for over a yearâŠtoday I tested one of my testing City that for some reason are a lot of the time very wrong, which is Seattle! I had cumulonimbus all around, not even realistic one, but the volcanic hash⊠again, this whole discussion for you months ago was almost superstition until in fact it was logged as a bug! I donât know why you feel the need to always disagree with my experience and others, and force us to accept yours as truth?!
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Iâm not forcing anyone to agree or accept what I believe. Iâve offered plenty of technical knowledge about how the sim works and the forces and software that drive it. Iâm just trying to get people to look at things more than they donât work. Do people understand why they donât work or even how they work or do they just focus on it not working? The more you understand how things work and why things might stop working or issues arise, the more youâll realize that a lot of it is out of your control and to just let the process happen. The bug has been logged and while itâs not the update we all desperately want, I see improvements and others are seeing it as well. Changes are happening bit by bit and thatâs enough for me. Happy flying everyone.
This thread has discussed lack of high altitude clouds, came across this just now in the beta. Looks promising:
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in fact this is the overcast of thin clouds we were talking about, what he posted is fine in the right conditionsâŠbut thatâs all we get so far in MFS now âŠ
I think the whole pre su7 argument is like wishing we lived in the 90âs again. Weather most likely was a lot nicer but there were other issues/limitations back then for sure. Same with today.
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I canât be bothered to have this discussion with you other than to say that some of us who experienced the most amazing weather generation of any sim ever, at launch, are still feeling upset that they have taken this away from us. And we are entitled to be annoyed about it and keep posting about it.
This thread is for people experiencing the bug âMETAR keeps disrupting the weatherâ. If you are happy with the weather please feel free to comment on the âmy clouds look greatâ threads instead.
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OK, and you do know that this happened around pre SU7 when all of the VATSIM users were unhappy about not having METAR based weather, right? That changed, and then things started moving in a different direction. So if anyone is to be responsible for changing things, it would be VATSIM pilots. Asobo just did what people voted for. 
Either way my man, sometimes you just have to move on. Bug is logged.
Yes, i think we need to accept flight simulators is meant to be fixed as METAR says to be realistic.
But to me it limits flight simulators to feel realistic.
I think thatâs why i defended the old system so much because it were the first time in a flight simulator the weather actually felt real.
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It wasnât just VATSIM users, it was any pilot who knows how to use aviation weather tools to make pre-flight and/or in-flight decisions. In the sim, we donât have any preflight tools. We donât have in-flight tools like ATC to tell us âthereâs an area of moderate to heavy precipitation at your 12 oâclock, 10 miles,â we donât have PIREPs, we donât have radar (or itâs had extremely limited functionality, at best). All we had was AWOS/ASOS and ATIS to tell us anything is going on beyond our little bubble. What weather there was was based on hours-old forecasts, animated but on rails, made into unrealistic mosaics, bound within limited geographical areas.
Sure, at times it looked nice, but it was incredibly unrealistic and inaccurate for VFR flying and the Aeronautical Decision Making that goes into that (especially anywhere that was less than clear and a million forecast). Thunderstorms that appeared out of nowhere (with laughably low tops), fog, rain, oh, the icing, etc. When you hit the seams, it was a wild guess as to what you were heading into next.
At least now itâs fairly predictable using those aviation weather tools, though itâs still off occasionally. Itâs a lot closer.
But how is this new system better at showing thunderstorms? Actually i think iâve never seen that since su7 were released. And icing i have not experienced either. I can agree that the effects of the icing on the aircraft were unrealistic. But that is not the weathers fault. Well, hope this change were worth it. For me it were not worth it. But thats my opinion.
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Itâs not. I think we agree that thunderstorms still need a lot of work. I was just saying it wasnât a panacea for them in the before-times, either.