MFS2020 AMAZING for sure but no turbulence in clouds, no turbulence in storm, MFS2020 what's up?

Hi,

I’m speechless and amazed about MFS2020, I was waiting so badly for it until August 18th at 00h00…
I don’t sleep that much since that great day (night) so much I enjoy the experience, thank you Microsoft and Asobo! … but there’s a “BUT”! Indeed I bought it for also one essential reason: the new engine weather so promising based on advertisings and reliable explanations from the experts and beta-testers!

I remember that before getting into the cockpit during my years of flying one of the most important thing was the collection of METAR/Taf data, THE WEATHER! Despite of the great creative team of Active Sky/Xplane, I wasn’t satisfied in terms of realism, I wanted to avoid storms, CB etc… then by watching many Utube videos about the revolution that will bring MFS2020 in terms of realism into the new engine-weather I was like a kid in front of the Christmas gift when MFS2020 was released BUT could someone explain me how is it possible to have any sort of turb in CB or other threating clouds (updraft/downdraft/ice in clouds etc) that I even have in Xplane?! I’m satisfied about “other turbulence” (out of the clouds), I’m glad to see a rainbow as it happened, sure it gives some pleasure to my eyes, same for the fantastic visual aspect in so many ways! … but… what about the realism in the weather if I can fly into a dangerous CB without any structural damage because of severe turbulence? The engine weather is not supposed to be one of the corner stone of MFS2020? So how come the realism of the weather is absent in clouds? or almost absent after releasing the new sim?
I understand that if some simmers want to “fly on the rails” (which is a free choice) then they still have FSX, P3D… but why does it feel “almost” the same with MFS2020? (talking only about Turbulence in Clouds TS/CB not about other Turb that work good imo)
I can accept bugs because of a first release of course but I didn’t buy a “BETA” (kidding) which seems to be the case “somehow” only concerning the Turb/Winds/Ice in CB because as a matter of fact it was released with this “huge” issue included in the weather! On the other hand I do appreciate some turb around that put some life in the skies and what about the amazing lights we see around: a FLIGHT-SIM-CHANGER no doubt about it, ultra-mega promising! :rainbow: :airplane: :partying_face: :+1:

Hopefully it will be fixed asap because it put the immersion a little bit down at a moment!

My big time respect for the team who created this dream that comes true by the way (special tks to the Frenchies (Asobo Studio) ), they are big time artists no doubt about it but please fix this bug now!!! … and if people complain about the fact that a C172 cannot fly in TS or CB then they still have FSX or P3D to enjoy their experience, but please guys bring some realism in the air, it’s a big NEED for those like me who bought this great new sim to get the best out of the realism as much as the technology could provide it, that will make the difference!

Thank you and Happy Flyings, beautiful skies “potentially” ahead (for sure) :wink: All my best encouragement to the MFS2020 team! Keep up the Great and Magic work! :airplane: :rainbow:

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Have already reported this to ZENDESK ! maybe they have to fine tune it !

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Thanks for the infos and the report @arniex78

Many places in the world don’t seem to pick up the live wind data with the rest of the weather. I’ve read it’s particularly bad (as in “no wind ever”) in North America. But one of the hurricanes in the middle of the Atlantic tried to tear the wings off my 787 last week.

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I thought there was no turbulence in this game until I started flying around the Alps in a Cessna 152. I was getting rocked while flying through some mountain clouds and I was gripping on to my joystick for dear life. I’m pretty sure it’s just broken in North America.

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@infamousbigj Yes you’re right there is turbulence like CAT, turb around the mountains (which is fully appreciated), I beleive there’s also ground effects turb (not sure i’m still digging) however in my topic post I’m talking specifically about Turbulence in clouds for instance CB where some severe turbulence are supposed to be there which should obligate us to avoid them by flying a Cub or a C172 (even a tube) that will add such a realism on top of what has already done and what was supposed to be after releasing MFS2020… which will make the engine-weather realistic which is definetely not the case for now mostly because of that imo :wink:

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I so much agree with you! I am exactly the same and purchased that sim mainly because of its “great” weather realism. And now they are not even able to provide us with the right winds…its very disappointing. I made a ticket to ZENDESK as well and hope they will fix that as soon as possible. It’s a major issue for me and not just a bug within others. The weather is the part that fascinates me the most about flying.

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@frankbyte it’s a major issue definetely! I second that, this is why I’m questioning myself to understand (without any polemic that leads nowhere) how could it be released with such a major issue that should had been deallt when they were testing different phases of betas?.. I don’t really need an answer about it I just need a fix, a patch :partying_face:… because indeed now it kills my immersion because there is bad weather above my head in real and I’d like to make the flight plan based on the weather not based of FSX flight plan! We are talking about realism for MFS2020 sake!.. same as you: " the weather is the part that fascinated me the most about flying" Sending the Copyrights to you!

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Weather is always coming from 225° at 3kts (outside Europe at least, it seems), that’s why you may be having no turbulence. Please report to Zendesk so the bug gets acknowledged (that’s the first step towards a fix).

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If Asobo ‘fixed’ every report that the Alpha and Beta testers reported before launch, you wouldn’t be playing what you have now. In fact probably not for a good while :wink: In fact you’d probably be even more frustrated about the delay and posting about that instead.

It’s all about priorities, which the testers don’t control.

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@SirGazer sure! But I won’t post for a delay! :wink: just because I know that sometimes it’s better to wait than to rush (I’ve learned it more in the skies than on earth lol but it works in the same way hh :wink:) but I know what you mean… Hopefully we will have a patch as soon as possible and you are definetely right testers don’t control everything or don’t take decision, despite of this when I look at the potential of this new sim: so many great things and a bunch of features we already have in this first release for only 80 bucks it’s definitely worth it! No regret in anyways! By the way it runs so smooth on my side (which surprised me so good) on High Settings with only a i6700, 16 G of RAM, GTX 1080, SSD, (turn off the 4k for a 1440p full screen), 127 cm (52’), can’t complain at all! Well, I believe that the team is aware about the issue so I’m not worried that it should be fixed “very” soon! Hopefully! :wink:

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I noticed another bug now. Even when there is wind (like for example 5 kts) this wind always comes from the right. The weird part is that even if you make a 90 degrees turn to the right, the winds still are coming from the right. You can even make a 360 degrees-turn to fly “into” the winds. No chance. The winds still come from the right even if you position yourself in another angle to them. This is based on the wind-arrow shown on the ND-screen. Its so embarassing, seriously :frowning: A part from that the weather effects are aboslutely mindblowing if i change them manually. It’s an immersion i never have experienced so far in any other sim.

so I did a short flight from LOXT to LOWZ today - and I have to say turbulence are definitely there, in general it looked very good, also the weather and the view is very similar to the view “out of the window”. slightly hazy, cloudy, it could be that I’m wrong and they calculate the particles based on the data. and also not a single stutter while flying ! the winds and metar seem to be correct…strange !

have made some short video, sorry for the format (5760x1080), especially from the minute 4:00 you see it more noticeable ! in the video it does not look so fluid, but it is generally !

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Aaah! This is the wind I had flying through a whirlwind south of Japan yesterday. That explains it. steady 3knot wind with no turbulence.

Sure as I mentionned there is good turbulence around as you can read in my post, I quote myself :slightly_smiling_face::

Again my topic only concern Turbulence in clouds especially through stormy clouds CB etc! :wink: on the other hand you’re right turbulence are there! I have some every flight in France based on the weather which seems to be very coherent, we have turb even above and around the relief (mountains, buildings etc as annonced, as planned) which is a revolution extremely appreciated on my side no doubt! But again I deeply wish that I can be obligated to avoid the CB and TS flying my Cub or else, you know I mean! It’s a Must-Need to make this weather as realistic as it’s supposed to be! It will come I believe and it has to! I’m going to send a ticket to ZENDESK as well by the way!

Same here! I second that 100%

I’ll do the same, you’re right

Yes something missing in weather engine, when i fly locally in the US cruising altitude wind speed is always the same 250/3. When i flew from kbos to lttp at times wind aloft was working i would see 323/63 or 305/34. I hope they fix ot because we all want to experience the complete true weather

Sounds weird dude! I didn’t notice that on my side, on the countrary I have many different layers of wind which surprised me in a nice and cool mood, for instance from 500 ft to 8500 ft yesterday in the Algerian desert at DAAT (vfr flight) I had different levels of winds at different alti-pressure during climbing! I also have those variables flying in Europe, in France (yes I already did a LFQQ/DAAT flying the DR400 NG in 8 days without any CTD by the way!!!) … anyways I don’t have this frustating issue you mention on my side, neither the issue of “no wind” outside of Europe as some of simmers have so far… just in order to take a quick look around I even flew at TFFJ, TFFR, L41, KPGA, PANC, KGLA NY, I didn’t have any issue about the wind out there as well. The other thing that looks strange about the wind is in high FL, I did only two short flights in tubes (they are not ready to fly yet imo) and for both flight at different location I didn’t encounter any sort of turbulence and the wind at FL390 was under 20kts, for both flights? A coincidence could sound kind of weird! I know that calm wind can occure in high altitude but not at this point however I didn’t dig very much to make a solid statement about it so I’m not sure. Anyway it looks like the wind issues hit some simmers and are different for others with the common point that is that we don’t have any Turb in clouds,CB TS as mentionned here for everybody. For the other “wind-issues” I don’t know if it has something to do with our location on the world map with internet/data etc no idea? For sure some fixes have to come soon!

Actually its very strange. It seems that this was only one of the indication on the ND-screen. I managed then to show the wind direction on another one and there it looked normal and as expected according to the actual wind charts. So i don’t understand what this little arrow with winds from 3-7 and barely changing direction (but always coming form 45-90 degrees) was…