Hello @MightyIink,
This is not either/or. We are giving you four payware aircraft for free in addition to releasing regular updates to fix bugs and improve the sim. One does not come at the expense of the other.
Thanks,
MSFS Team
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Thank you, I guess we’ll see what happens.
Hope “Improving the sim” become a destination, not a road. my guess they will start developing the next sim start of 2026, 2027 the announcement, 2028 the release, that’s the road anyways, but where the destination is going to be?
we all will see.
hope for a better sim, not a black hole loop releases each one affects the another negatively.
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it will ALWAYS remain a road until the franchise may not work anymore at all.
Until then there will always be something that’s not working well enough or not be realistic enough.
In fact the constant updates and improvements played a big part in keeping me interested over the past 4+ years. Perfection is impressive but boring 
me too. I liked the improvements 2020 had. 2024 introduced new type of improvements, fixing bugs introduced in new updates, & many features from 2020 are missing as a downgrade. i see them as a two different ways instead of a one way road.
what’s frustrating is they said patch 3 would address many issues but it didn’t do any improvement.
- LOD and texture streaming: Players experiencing blurry textures or popping details will benefit from optimizations in the rolling cache system and texture streaming pipeline.
- Xbox performance: Efforts are underway to mitigate memory fragmentation issues that cause crashes, particularly during long-haul flights and with complex aircraft.
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Good Morning I just wanted to say thank you for flight simulator. I learn to use a computer using Microsoft 3.1 it started with a golf game and then I found flight sim 5.0 in 1994 and I was hooked. I stay with flight sim up until 2006 flight sim X was the last version I had. I became a aviation junky. I even thought of getting a private pilots license at one point and start the process but they dream feel thought do to finances and life.
Then there was no more versions from Microsoft the dream died. Fast forward to 2024 and the dream lives once more and what a change from 2006 and I’m glad to rediscover flight simulator once more. Not sure about a Pilots license but I glad I found this sim once again. I missed out on the open of the product and just started to fly again in late December. Regardless of the issues for me this flight sim is outstand and I understand that its a work in progress but on a entirely new level of complexity from my last version in 2006 or my first version in 1994.
I’m one of the people this time who will enjoy this product more by using it than tweaking it. In the early days it was fun to tweak and add scenery and aircraft and tweak the weather and ATC now it all about flying. I’m now retired at 63 years of age and can now finally use this at it is attended.
Now a days its about the realisms from the used of multiple monitor’s to realistic flight panels to interactive ATC and true to life scenery and even the ability to build ones on virtual cockpit absolutely amazing and most importantly the origanl software and program that make all these new thing work. As they say its complicated but we will make it work along the way.
For me this time I will let you, the makers and developer’s do the tweaking and for me I will do the flying to different places thanks to you guys. keep up the good work and thank you for bring this product back to life in 2020 and I look forward to many years of enjoyment.
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It appears that @MightyIink’s post conveyed a message that was not fully understood. The current main concern with the sim is the career mode issues. It would be reassuring to know that this is currently a priority for Asobo. These complimentary planes do not help with Career problems, and any actions taken that are not focused on resolving Career-related issues will not benefit the numerous players affected by the challenges in this mode. It would be great if Asobo could reassure us that addressing career issues is their priority before releasing anything complimentary. Its not about ‘regular updates to fix bugs and improve the sim’. It’s about one huge “Fixing the career mode” - is the most anticipated right now. Mightylink was politely stating that we needed Career mode fixed first, and complimentary planes could wait for after that? Generalizing the answers only makes us think that the issue that is huge for us, isn’t being prioritized enough right now.
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I just want the initial loading fixed so it does not literally take 5 mins to get in the game.
Also I STILL get N64 looking ground textures and trees and buildings that look like melted marshmellows. It is very distracting to play like that and just takes you out of the game.
Once the issues are fixed it will be much more playable
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Heh the CAP4 was originally listed as ‘free’ when it was ‘exposed’ in the MP back in September of '23. They’ve been working on Brazil for a little while…
Unless I see a 757 AND a prop liner (Connie/DC6/etc) and a LOT of major fixes I won’t be getting 2024, I rarely even fly 2020 any more due to lack of favorite planes.
its not about the money, i’ll buy even for 1k$, because i like what it provides, the problem in the experience only.
100% agree! Focus on and fix the basic issues that make the sim flyable. Its sad that even a basic 172 has so many issues. The should focus on things like
-seriously reducing load times
-controller sensitivity
-Cockpit lighting, light should be coming FROM the instruments not flooding the cabin.
-GUI needs some resolution fixes.
-flight dynamics are an issue all across the board.
*we shouldnt have to go through MS Store or Xbox to get the sim installed or updated!
And the list goes on…
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Well that can’t be true, can it?
It was a quantity over quality attitude that has caused many of the problems with MSFS 2024 - this approach to development has been clear in MSFS2020 too.
Many of the provided aircraft in 2020 are still unfinished and buggy. Many of the commissioned FF and LL aircraft in the sim are buggy and unfinished, the B707 which should have been a quality add on - the iconic B707 deserved that level of respect - was an unfinished and unworthy product.
So 4 more aircraft of the same sort of standard - or are you maintaining that there will be a substantial increase in QA for the 4 aircraft? Excellent if the case.
So concentrating on listening to the customer feedback and improving and fixing the major flaws with 2024 would most likely be the biggest reward you could give to all your customers. - but thats just my own suggestion of course.
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While I’m sure that four free aircraft is seen as a nice gift by many, I would much prefer just having the appearance, performance and functionality of the base sim be fixed/much improved. The seasons for example: large areas are just recolored and then many trees taken away to expose brown pyramid shaped ‘trees’. Surely that isn’t ‘finished’. Shouldn’t that be finished first? Shouldnt the planes errors (of which I don’t know many because I have chosen to fly only one or two basic planes until the sim gets fixed) be fixed first? I think so.
and you can’t say graphics artists aren’t needed to fix the base sim so they can freely work on Brazil or addon airplanes. Those artists are needed to make trees that don’t just look good from 50 feet away or less. (I say nothing about clouds)
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VRAM use is proportional to LOD, more or less.
Therefore managing LOD is the major thrust of a solution. I expect that’s why Asobo focus on LOD in their messaging.
It’s a tricky problem to solve if we expect 95% VRAM all the time. An average of 80% is probably more pragmatic.
The big issue is if VRAM hits 95% which textures are NOT loaded and which textures are on the remove list. Those are very dependent on the view outside the cockpit, altitude, weather, time of day and the users attitude to risk in graphics settings.
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I would debate your usage of the word regular.
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I agree. Not everyone will enjoy or even fly the so-called 4 aircraft that MS/Asobo are giving away for free. Unless these are highly sought after aircraft of really high quality, many people probably won’t care.
Many of us are very puzzled and upset that two months after the release, the team continue to gaslight the community on the quality of FS2024.
Just yesterday when I tried flying FS2024, the SIM just CTD whenever I try to configure the A330. I tried it a few times and it did the exact same thing and I think I know how to reproduce it on a consistent basis with that bug. With that said, there are just so many bugs where I have no desire to deal with all the weird, inconsistent behaviors of the SIM.
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Yeah, nothing is simple. I gave it one last try last day or so to get the 737 to behave and learned how to use its autopilot etc, which is trickier than the 787. Bottom line it has the same VRAM issues, so I am outta here until they fix it or I get a 5080 later in the year.
The 737 ran at 100 FPS at cruise and went to 10-15 on the runway at SFO. The VRAM said 7 but it is overflowing and unflyable. For some reason the C-172 never gets above 6 and works OK. I had hopes for the 737…