[MSFS2024] Bell Helicopter 47J Ranger

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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate the Flight Model and Aircraft Systems?
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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate the Interior and Exterior Graphics?
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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate the Audio and Aircraft Sounds?
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On a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being best), how do you rate your Overall Enjoyment of this aircraft?
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Thanks,
MSFS Team

It is impossible to assign a separate throttle axis to my thrustmaster, like in 2020. The throttle keeps operating the collective, despite the terribly user unfriendly Control UI saying the input is exclusively assigned to the throttle. Governor does not work either, so Impossible to tale off from cold and dark. Starting from runway does work, although throttle is still inoperative from assigned input

Try assigning the throttle to PROPELLER AXIS. My Cabri G2 had rhe same problem and this fixed the thing

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Yes, that fixed it, thank you!

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I used to be able to see this to Stream into 2024, but it has dissapeared now. Why?

Replying to myself… I found her inside the “Deluxe Upgrade” item! Weirdly it also shows in the “Aviator Edition” but I don’t even own that.

100% sure when I text searched for it before it came up in the top level results so something has changed.

OKaaaay, so next problem. I can load the helicopter now but there are no sounds. Anyone got sounds in 2024?

Are ini going to fix this, seeing as they are almost first party and this was an official aircraft?! :slight_smile:

Yes, sounds are working for me.
I’m on latest beta.

-eelis-

Hmmm :thinking:
I am running a fresh install of the sim also on latest Beta (that’s how come it went “missing” in the first place) so I doubt deleting its Streaming folder would help, as this session is the first time I have run the game since Enabling the 47J again. Confused… :confused:

I deleted the Streaming folder (24mb) and rebooted the game, and got sounds now. This software is so WEIRD!!

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This post was meant for the Nemeth’s Bell 407, not the wonderful Bell 47J which is really nice to fly!

Thank you :slight_smile:

Update coming in AAU5! Lets go, fingers crossed

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AAU5 updates have gone live, full release notes found here.

seems to be little to no torque effect. no transverse flow effect, no pedal changes required through ETL. should require much more pedal input. cyclic controls over dampended. sounds are nice and good work on those, hope we can get a decent flight model next.

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My repaints for the Bell 47J Ranger are now compatible with the native MSFS 2024 version :slight_smile:

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Wish you could keep the doors open without bring jumped back out to walk-around mode with start flight without walk-around turned to on in Assistance in MSFS settings starting with Sim Update 5.

Other than this minor niggle relishing the Bell Helicopter 47J Ranger-an easy flyer!

The updates to the visuals are spectacular! The model looks beautiful inside and out. It’s nice to be able to open the baggage door, but there aren’t any other walk around features. No covers to remove or panels to open. No inspection points to check. However, the exterior mapping and stressed panels on the fuselage look incredible! The fabric on the interior looks so real you can almost smell the unmistakable vintage aircraft coming from the seats.

The controls and switches are much easier to operate. The correct ‘collective’ and ‘set helicopter throttle’ axis are working properly with my hardware. The throttle control isn’t quite right on manual. I found it would either drop below or jump way over the green arc if I even touched it. It was way too difficult to keep in the middle of the arc. It wanted to sit just above the high redline while flying. The needles still don’t split when you cut the throttle, so it seems there is still not a simulated clutch. MSFS/Asobo please study what this means. The added governor function worked okay to keep the rpm/rrpm in the middle of the arc, but during cold start I could only get it to work if I turned it on from the tablet after rolling the rrpm to the middle of the green arc first, then engaging. Otherwise the systems worked as they should. I didn’t test the carb heat or try a mag drop test.

There seems to be zero torque effect present. All of the pilot accounts on Bell 47Gs and Js talk about the pedals being sensitive and responsive, but still requiring a lot of travel for torque changes. Pilot speak, it needs a lot of left boot on pickup. The updated version requires little to no pedal input for torque changes. You should have 40-50% left pedal input to maintain heading at the default loadout on pickup. When you lower collective on descent you should have 40-50% right pedal until you slow out of ETL and it switches back over to 40-50% left, or more, as you slow into a hover. The tail rotor also unloads as you transition through ETL. At cruise the pedals should be neutral or slightly right. Pedal management with the collective movement is the soul of light helicopter flying. Why have assists if there isn’t any torque response to assist?

The cyclic response is PERFECT!! don’t change this at all!! It was overall stable, while wandering. It flies very similar to the 2-bladed teetering Robinsons I fly in real life. It’s just slightly more stable with that giant balance bar. The ‘bunny ears’ stabilizer weights on the rotor head should move outwards when the rotor is up to flight rpm. They are a spring loaded stop that prevents the rotor from hitting the tail on the ground. Small detail but would be cool! The cyclic felt spot on, as I slowed down to taxi into a hover and park, the movements got smaller and smaller but still requiring a lot of nudges to talk it into where you want it to go.

The updates to the rotor animations look amazing! Remarkable progress! Don’t stop now, it’s heading somewhere great!

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I was struggling with this helicopter, flying from Montrose (KMTJ) to the South Rim Visitor Center POI. At a certain point on the route it was not climbing anymore, and even losing altitude.

Do you have an idea if that was user error (maybe I was not using throttle correctly), or if the the altitude of ~8000ft is too high for this helicopter?

published performance ceiling is 11,000’

Were you hovering? was your rpm/rrpm in the green?

One of the improvements I didn’t mention was in the patch notes. The lift and drag of the rotor is improved and it lost lift appropriately when the rrpm dropped below green.

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