My 2070 SUPER VR settings and suggestion (Reverb G2 - WMR)

@CptLucky8, wouldn’t you want your TAA settings to be whatever is closest to native regardless of what the SS setting is?

Not necessarily.

I usually first want my render resolution to be the closest to what my hardware can deliver per view (about 2K x 2K or 1.5K x 1.5K w/reproj). Then, I balance SS depending on whether I’d prefer more EFIS or more outside view legibility.

Please note when publishing my article I’ve been exploring nearly all combinations as well and the 3 above are the ratios I find giving the most in their respective goals and the constraints of the hardware I’m running on. Using TAA100 + SS(any suitable for the hardware) will not always give a better perf/pixel/quality result than TAA(x) + SS(y).

For example on the Index, it seems counter intuitive but for same perf, I find TAA100+SS78 good for EFIS but TAA60+SS220 nearly as good for EFIS but much better for outside. Yesterday I’ve tried pushing the Index even further on the same hardware, thanks to the new SteamVR 1.16.1 beta, and I must say running the Index at SS250 or SS300 (thus using TAA around 60/70 max) was giving me so nice a visual it was seriously competing with the G2 (even more so when you factor in the quality of the Index and the larger FOV). I know it sounds weird but despite the lower panel resolution, when pushing the Index at this level it was not much different in the end that my G2 in practice, because I can’t run the G2 at 100+100 (which is 3K x 3K).

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thank’s, just test now, and i confirm that you say is true.
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I hope so! :grinning:

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You almost make me want to buy the index again, I sold mine a year ago for a pretty penny. I do remember that the god rays in high contrast situation were very disturbing for me in the cockpit. Do you have the same issues or is it something that was solved with the past year updates?

There is glare for sure and it is intrinsic to Fresnel lenses, and the G2 is superior in this area. But in practice in the simulator, I don’t find this too distracting. I believe I just got used to it or I instinctively avoid putting my head in a direction where it shows up without realizing. I just wish there would be some 3080 available so that I can try pushing it further, but in this case, I would be able to also push the G2 further… Nevertheless, I’ve just posted another take at the “G2 vs Index” question here:

PSA: Reverb G2 small sweet spots, observations and solutions - #71 by CptLucky8

Thanks Captain!

Just get a 3090, I think they are slightly easier to get. I’ll chip in, as a matter of fact I think a lot of users in this forum should! :slight_smile:

Seriously

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I have a 3080 for a month or so, and the performance in MSFS is terrible. Overclocked it’s almost at 3090 level. People with 3080 and 3090 compain of often a worse performance with G2 than 2000 series cards. So I don’t think there is any performance gain, maybe even some loss. Maybe it’s the Nvidia drivers, or maybe MSFS VR implementation, but something it not right… Because when compaing GTX 1660 to 3080 in 4K resolution in MSFS the difference is huge. When I could barely get 20-30 I’m getting 50 FPS. Too bad VR killed flat-screen gaming or simming for me. It’s just not the same after tasting VR.

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MY specs blow all of your guys out of the water, however I have a Nvidia card and so far MSFS does not play well with there cards. X plane is my choice as of right now until this Multi billion dollar company can figure it out.

@RomanDesign, it’s all brand new. I’m sure we’ll see those fixes and optimizations hitting our hard drives within a very short amount of time. In the meantime, I’m actually quite impressed with what I’m experiencing so far, especially with the helps from this thread.

No, I’m not getting 144fps, or 120, or 100, or even 60. Mostly I’m getting 30 that is so consistent it’s almost like it’s been locked in as a minimum and a maximum, though that is not the case. And I’m very happy with those 30. Sure, I’d like more, I mean more is always better, right? But I’ve learned I don’t need those insane frame rates in a flight sim in VR to have a very, very good experience.

And just look at it this way, if Nvidia does have problems right now, imagine how good things will be once they fix it? And I have absolute faith that they will!

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Thanks for posting this guide! It has made this journey into VR so much more enjoyable.

I do have a question about the super sampling and render scale. I have both set to 70%, so wouldn’t that effectively be the same as setting SS at 100% and Render Scale at 50% or vice versa (since 70% of 70% is 49%)? If that is true (a big assumption), wouldn’t it be best to set SS at 100% and adjust the sim Render Scale as needed as you wouldn’t need to exit and restart the sim to make changes?

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This is a good question! First I usually can manage to exit VR, make a change, then enter VR back. Sometimes it is stubborn but usually this is ok. The balancing between the two is mostly a question of optimizing where do the CPU/GPU couple is spending its energy for a certain level of visuals. I also tend to use 70/70 because it is an overall good balance for my test system, where I can choose lowering to 60/70 or raising to 80/70 quickly depending. It really depends on your hardware and taste though in the end.

Hi captain,

I’ve noticed that most people, including yourself, prefer to lock at 30 FPS and turning off reprojection. I happen to like it and prefer to keep it on, as I have not noticed any artifacts yet. However, my question to you is if I should lock at 30 FPS or not when using reprojection. Thanks

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It depends on your preferences and hardware! I’m fine at 30 without (tolerating juddering because I don’t translate my head much and when rotating only/mostly it is minimal).

Of course. All I’m saying that an upgrade to 3080 or 3080 given the current state of thing, may not give any performance improvement, and may even cause some loss…

Sorry, trying to stay in the loop but getting through all the posts in this thread is exhausting (although several attempts on my part).

How do I lock the FPS to 30?

You can do it in the nvidia control panel under manage 3D settings.

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Hey guys, maybe this has been posted here already, but it looks like Nvidia found the bug that caused low fps and stuttering with some drivers. They’re going to release a hotfix this week. Check it out:

Maybe we don’t have to use the .3 driver anymore after this.

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Thanks for the info! Fingers crossed

@RomanDesign, well then maybe it’s a good thing that unless we’re willing to pay scalper prices (and I’m not, even though hypothetically I could if I decided I wanted to), we’re probably not going to find any in inventory anywhere until hopefully after Nvidia has had a chance to do whatever optimizations in drivers, etc. are done!

@rhubarbapapa, what I did was to go to the very first post and basically monkey see monkey dood (is that a word?) with @CptLucky8’s instructions, right down to the driver level he recommended, and the Nvidia Control Panel choices. I have made some minor changes to the in-sim settings, and I went with the 100 OXR, 70 TAA option, and I’m getting 30fps +/- 1 in essentially all situations EXCEPT super dense scenery. Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris was particularly bad, with me seeing single digit framerates, but it’s huge, absolutely gorgeous, handcrafted, and I literally had to taxi like 5 miles to get to my assigned runway. If you chose a parking spot near a runway and went without ATC, or just spawned ON a runway there, it wouldn’t be so bad.

But please don’t spawn on a runway if you’ve got multiplayer turned on, you never know when someone might be on very short final when you do that. That by itself is one of the reasons I rarely run with multiplayer on at all, because I got tired of people popping in right ahead of me when I was trying to land.

Like @CptLucky8, I’m running a 2070S, but mine is paired with an i5-10600K, and they’re both overclocked. I’ve been quite surprised just how good 30fps can look, but I’m not going to complain. And with reports coming from folks like @RomanDesign that even 3080s aren’t offering that much of an improvement, I think I’ll stick with that 2070S at least until those issues are worked out, and maybe even longer. There’s already talk of a 3080ti, and a 3070ti, but you know how rumors are. I did sign up for stock notifications from EVGA on several 3080 models, but even if I get the email that I can grab one, I’m not sure I’m quite ready to do so, but we’ll see if/when that email shows up.

Anyway, once again I’ve rambled on and on, but to get the 30fps in most places, I just followed the instructions mostly to the letter. And it worked.

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