Nemeth Design - Schweizer S300

Great video, thanks. Gave me something to do while I wait on the Su2 beta update being downloaded.

You are definitely not experiencing the bugged state by the looks of things.

Interesting that this heli almost lifts on the ground with zero collective is there as you suggest when you just move the cyclic. Incidentally, another possibly related & silly issue is that I can just about take off with the throttle reduced to a low level too. You are most likely correct about the heli power levels being too high in fs2024.

My S300 after giving me a couple of flights without the cyclic angle shift bug, has reverted back to having that axis shift again, but I still quite enjoy messing around with it despite this happening, it’s just annoying to not know what induced it.

I will keep the input viewer on the next flight to investigate the left cyclic input that you are showing here, I just think that the bugged state needs way more exaggerated input (via stick rotation) than a mild correction/application of left cyclic during the flight I think.

ps. impressed by your landings there, you made them look completely effortless.

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I did some autos with it in a previous video in MSFS2020, but not yet in ‘24. It was hard to recover rrpm, but it kept flying anyway even when the rrpm was below the arc and would be unrecoverable IRL.

Thanks! I really wish we could get to the bottom of this one. It’s such a great flying helicopter in MSFS20/24

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Appreciate the S300 video - going to go back and try it again, but even with my Moza AB9, Virpil Collective and cyclic, this thing rolls uncontrollably. Was resisting playing with centering force but guess that’s the only way I can fly it.

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Ground based behavior/“floatiness” can be improved a bit by increasing the default pilot and passenger weighs to 220lbs (from default of 170lbs) and making sure I have a 1/2 tank or more of fuel. I’ve been flying it around the Shetland Isles this morning albeit with my cyclic stick sitting at 45deg (to the right) and delicate cyclic inputs which are I have to say greatly improved by using @belatu42’s trick of having the input viewer panel open and watching it closely to guide your cyclic inputs.

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It was one of my first (ever) full flights without hull loss. Don’t give up, guys, even this beast can be domesticated with time and effort!

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Finally had the time to watch your video and fly version 2.0.0 from the Marketplace.

First of all I really enjoyed the video, thank you for the explanation of the different control behaviors. I had no problem with the movements of the camera. And I think I need this Vancouver Island scenery!

Regarding the current state of the S300 in MSFS2024, I did not experience the strong right yaw when moving the cyclic forward anymore. The one thing that still bugs me is the latency between cyclic movements and the reaction of the helicopter. This is something I could adapt to, and like you said in the video it is better to focus on one helicopter for some time, instead of switching models all the time.

Comparing the Nemeth S300, Cowansim R22 and Asobo Cabri G2, the S300 seems to have by far the biggest cyclic latency. No idea if this reflects real life behavior. But for me as a person without any real life helicopter experience, I enjoy the R22‘s flight model the most, the Cabri comes second, and the S300 is in the third place.

I could imagine that using a joystick without a spring would make life with the S300 easier. I have the spring force turned down on my Virpil CM2 base with extension, but the centering force is still there. But it works quite well with the very agile R22 and other helicopters.

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