New Monitor For FS2024

Hi All,
I recenty bought a new PC for FS2024:

Intel Core i7 14700F CPU cooled by the ASUS TUF Gaming LC II 240 ARGB AIO CPU Cooler, ASUS TUF Gaming B760M Plus WIFI II DDR5 Motherboard, ASUS GeForce RTX 4080 Super TUF Gaming OC 16GB graphics card, 32GB Team T-Force Delta RGB 6000MHz DDR5 memory, 2TB Team T-Force Z44A5 M.2 NVMe Gen4 SSD, ASUS A21 Plus MicroATX ARGB Case

And was looking to get a monitor as well.

Preferably around the 300 USD mark, could go higher if it is worth it

I was wondering what resolution/size would be best, also curved or flat, and the screen type

Thanks in advance

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Try the Pixio PX384C. I did a few months ago and love it. Price will be okay as well. Replaced a 27 inch 1440 Pixio which moves to my other PC.

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You’ve got a great rig and I would recommend not to go cheap with the monitor. Sort of like you don’t want to put a 4 cylinder engine in a race car. The 4080 will easily drive a 4k HDR monitor/TV and the challenge is your $300 price point. The interesting part is that gaming TV’s are becoming very competitive with high end gaming monitors.

If you can afford it I would consider a gaming TV like this one. while you may think a 55" TV is too big it actually hits the sweet spot for gaming. I sit ~1m from my 55"Qled Samsung 4k HDR 120Hz TV and it’s very immersive (click on gamer pic for PC set up). It will have all of the gamer features you need at a very good price.

The beautiful part is that you can always reuse it as a regular TV if needed :+1:

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That is a great suggestion, and I was thinking of using my actual TV, however the space I have for the monitor is only 42" x 21" with a diagonal of 47"

I thought this might be a good option:

I am currently using this monitor that I bought a couple years ago, not for gaming:

I blew most of the budget on the PC, so would have to save up for a little longer to get a more expensive monitor.

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Yep that one’s the proverbial 4-cylinder engine so you do need another monitor.

This is a very nice monitor however I pause on account of 2 things:

  • it’s only 1440p and not 4k
  • it uses freesync premium as the VRR technology.

You definitely need VRR but your 4080 utilizes Nvidia’s g-sync technology for VRR, not freesync. You can check the manual for the monitor and if it supports a generic VRR (predates freesync and g-sync) it will work with the 4080.

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I was reading this article and it seems that the NVIDIA G-Sync works with AMD Freesync when using a display port connection:

I was also looking at some of the 4k monitors and found that some of the cheaper ~$400-500 USD options had less than desirable specs, such as 5ms response time, not curved and only small screen sizes such as 27" and 32"

I was also wondering if the screen type makes a difference, e.g. VA, LCD

Thanks for your help in this endevour

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VA is a type of LCD, which can have great image quality, but not the greatest off axis viewing. This would be noticable if sitting close to a large monitor and you’ll see discoloration at the edges of the screen. IPS LCD screens are my preferred. You get great colors, and almost no off axis viewing problems.

A lot of people like OLED screens, but I would prefer not to deal with the burn in risk they have, especially because I keep a HUD on and also have other programs I use with a lot of static imagery. People claim that burn in is no longer an issue, but my personal experience begs to differ and so not something I’ll go for.

My idea of a perfect monitor would be an IPS panel with good local dimming, but that will likely be out of your price range.

Curved vs flat is personal preference. I have some direct lighting behind my setup, and a curved screen would make reflections way worse. I’m also using a 27" monitor, so flat is fine for me.

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don't want to put a 4-cylinder engine in a race car

How about a 4 cylinder engine in a dragster? Quarter mile in 6.02 seconds, 229 mph at the finish line.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/01/gm-ecotec-dragster-is-the-worlds-fastest-four-cylinder-video/

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Lol that turbocharger is sic. :exploding_head:

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In many cases that’s correct. Some monitor vendors don’t want to pay Nvidia a license fee and certification costs for supporting G-sync and some don’t want to go thru the trouble of certifying freesync but they will still support a standard called “adaptive sync”. It’s basically still VRR but without the freesync/G-sync marketing terms. I’d still take a quick look at the monitors manual or verify with some reviews that monitor will support adaptive sync or work with G-sync video cards.

Here’s a good article explaining it.

Exactly - and at that $500 price point the gaming TV’s become more affordable with more features.

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Question? When using a tv. Do you use the tv speakers? I have a 55 samsung that blew something and has no sound but still has a beautiful picture. You think it would still work as my monitor? I agree with the tv suggestions. Sounds amazing

I did some further research and found that that monitor does support Adaptive Sync:

https://www.tech-america.com/item/asus-tuf-vg34vq3b-34-class-uw-qhd-curved-screen-gaming-led-monitor/vg34vq3b?srsltid=AfmBOoquGd4vj6E5T7BwDhkxEWX6RZIJZQH96AR1sVKLY3r8g6g1ECdU

I think I will buy this monitor, unless the difference between 1440p and 4k is extremely noticable

Thanks

I also saw that there is an option to enable V-Sync in th FS2024 Graphics settings. Does this mean I don’t need a VRR in my monitor at all?

When it comes to e-sports, we recommend monitors with TN or VA panels. For flight simulators and movie watching, IPS or OLED is the way to go.

Each panel type has its strengths and weaknesses. For example, TN and VA panels often struggle with accurate color reproduction. This is where IPS panels shine, offering superior color accuracy. However, IPS displays have their own drawbacks, such as “IPS glow” and a black color that can appear slightly silvery.

OLED monitors overcome these issues and are unparalleled in certain scenarios, like night-time flying or games such as Cyberpunk 2077 and Elite Dangerous. With OLED, black is truly black, not a “fake” black.

The only potential downside of OLED monitors might be screen burn-in. However, this is becoming less of an issue as manufacturers implement advanced technologies to mitigate it. Additionally, many brands, such as MSI, now offer warranties of up to 3 years on their OLED panels.

If a monitor comes with FreeSync technology and you’re using an NVIDIA graphics card, you shouldn’t encounter issues as long as the monitor is listed as G-SYNC Compatible.
GeForce G-SYNC Monitors: Manufacturers & Specs

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Why not some wireless headphones? You can crank the volume up to 11 without disturbing anyone else, and you get a built-in mic. Turn the mic on by lowering the boom, turn it off by raising it, adjust the volume with the buttons on the earpiece, listen to music while in another room or outside.

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I have a Dolby ATMOS soundbar attached to the TV via an eARC port so the sound is basically passed through the TV without using its speakers. There are other ways to bypass the TV speakers such as headphones or speakers attached to your PC.

The v-sync option in the sim is a very basic method to only lock your fps to a specific value. If your cpu/gpu can always attain that fps and keep it locked then you don’t really need VRR. Having a gpu/cpu that can always keep the fps locked into one value is a very tall order which is mostly unattainable unless you really lowball the fps lock (and that impacts the immersion). You typically see your fps changing dynamically as you fly based upon the scenery, object LOD, airport, plane detail etc. VRR will prevent tearing on screen when the fps changes.

So for a complex game/simulator like 2020/2024, most really need some type of VRR (active VRR, freesync, or G-Sync) to get a good level of immersion. Again, if you’re going to put a lot of time and money into a really good PC then I would advise not to skimp on the monitor.

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Perfect - then this monitor would work fine given your space and budget constraints. It’s always best to verify before you purchase so there’s no buyers remorse. :joy:

TV speakers are pretty lackluster these days, especially on larger ones. Manufacturers know dedicated sound systems are common, so no reason for them to include anything decent. On my TV we have a small Atmos setup. The suggestion of headphones is good too. On my computer, I use headphones that are also Atmos compatible and include a license for it. Spacial sound in headphones has really come a long way and Atmos on them is really convincing.

Either way, I would recommend almost anything other than the TV’s speakers even if yours worked.

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After looking at the list of G-SYNC compatible monitors, the one that I was considiring buying was not listed. Does this mean that the VRR will not work at all, or will it use Adaptive Sync and work fine?

I have the Asus TUF VG34VQ3b running 3440x1440 and love it .

I didn’t like it the first couple of days because I was used to a much larger (but not wide) display. ( and I have two other displays on the system)

I considered replacing it with another larger x wide screen .. but after using it for a week I was totally happy with it.