New motherboard and Cpu for better FPS

I currently have the following

Motherboard: Asus Prime H270-Plus
Cpu: i7 7700
Gpu: RTX 2070 Super
RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVMe
Psu: 670 watts

i was thinking of upgrading the motherboard to a ASUS B550-F ROG STRIX motherboard

as for the CPU i was thinking a Ryzen 5 3600

whats everyones opinion? im only getting 20 to 30 frames with the setup i currently have…

If I were you I would to some testing first. Here is what I found.

Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Z390 w/ Pentium 9900
RTX 2080
64G ram
2TB m.2 main drive
1G ethernet w/ xfinity 1G max plan

I tested all base settings from minimum to Ultra, and found it basically ran the same (for me at least) around 50-60 FPS, even with Vsynch off. The memory use was about 17G, CPU about 7 of 8G, and disk use about 30% except for 100% spikes, which I assume to be texture.

So basically I believe it’s just not optimized at this point and I’m not sure above what you have there you would see a vast improvement right now. You mileage may vary, but I’d do some testing first on the various settings to see if it is really maxing out what you have.
Edit: also use that one tweaking post in here, that may help you get above that 30 FPS rate

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Also why B550? The b450 works fine with a mid tier Ryzen and you’ll be paying less. My advice is to just wait for optimizations and new gen CPUs

an i7 7700 is only slightly slower than a r5 3600 in terms of single core performance with the added benefit of lower memory latency.

4c/8t to 6c/12 will definately help with stutters, but imo you should wait for ryzen 4000 series and/or DX12 support.

If you were to upgrade, I think those board and CPU choices are solid for the time being.

(keep in mind everything im saying is just my opinion and perspective)

well now i just found out my i7 7700 is climbing up to 200 degrees Fahrenheit… if im going to get a better heat sink than im going to invest in a new cpu to go with it (i just need to research which is the best option). I respect your opinion but i JUST upgraded to the 2070 super not that long ago. I had a GTX 1060 3gb before and just got the 2070 super because its basically a 2080 lite (from my research) the 2070 super comes in around 2nd in the consumer graphics cards at the moment at least in nvidia and my research but that is just bias opinions (maybe not the version i specifically have) next to the 2080 Ti (which is $1,500… thats a hard no :neutral_face:)

I do realize there are new graphics cards coming in September as well. But im going to go with a cpu because im gonna need to do it anyways. Sorry if my logic is off… this is all a learning experience. I want to do this.

So what would you say would be a good upgrade for a cpu even if i went all the way up to the i9 9900k (at the maximum, although i think that might be overkill just using that as the max im willing to spend)

sorry for my writing to be convoluted… i have a scatterbrained mind.

let me ask you this since the ryzen 5 3600 is not much better, how would the i7 9700k be or the ryzen 7 3700X? I just want to make sure what im getting is an actual upgrade (keeping the GPU the same for a few years and only focusing on the cpu and motherboard)

here a few CPU were tested: https://www.computerbase.de/2020-08/flight-simulator-benchmark-test/2/

The Ryzen 5 3600 is a fantastic chip. I plan on upgrading to it myself. Like @Ryanosaurs13 mentioned though, get a B450 instead. You don’t need a B550 board. Most B450 boards are updated for Zen 2, but just to be safe I would get a MAX series one. Those are guaranteed to have an updated BIOS and memory support for the newer zen 2 chips.

From a 7700K you’ll need to go for a 3700X minimum for the upgrade to be worth while for a FS2020 rig.
The 3600 is great for a tighter budget, the 3900 also is cheap some places at the moment.

However, considering the 3700X will be replaced in a few months you really should wait.

Intel have been stagnant on value, the 9700K isn’t a bad chip but it’s not going to be a huge bump, and there is no upgrade potential beyond that if you got it.

Here’s what you do…
Clean your case out, clean the CPU and heatsink and re-seat it with new, good quality thermal paste.
Enjoy the performance of not being thermally throttled if the 200F comment is true…

Then wait 2-4 months, get a B550 board, in a few months time they will be cheaper and more readily available, and they have nice things like guaranteed PCIe Gen4 support etc…
Drop into it a shiny new Zen3 CPU, 8core/16 thread and use the stock cooler, chances are it will actually be decent like the wraith my 3800x has.

For a little patience you’ll have the latest gen of mid-high tier CPU with the best $/Performance available, and new toys like PCIe Gen4, plenty of USB3.1 Gen1 & Gen2 etc…

At this point you can smile knowing you got better stuff with more future potential than a tiny blip of an overpriced upgrade to a platform that has no future potential.

Not an AMD fanboi, all previous systems since the 1990’s have been mostly Intel with the occasional Cyrix and AMD. They’re just offering the better all round package right now.

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Please take a min and check out Toms Bench Marks , it’s the best I have seen uptodate.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/microsoft-flight-simulator-performance-and-benchmarks-your-pc-may-need-an/198700

I got the SDK Nvidia software from Spazzy and it gives full reports from the nviia hardware. Since Beta the game is performing half assed. It leaves garbage in the memory pool, and often reloads aspects double. Causing a GPU throttle.

I am certain it will be fixed. crosses fingers.

Have we heard anything from Microsoft of a fix or something?

Thanks for the guide! This cleared up a lot of questions. I guess I will enjoy what I got in the game as upgrading doesn’t seem economical at the moment!

honestly, before i had the intel stock fan cooler for the i7 7700 [non k] which is the cpu I currently have (everyone keeps misunderstanding that I don’t have the K version lol). Anyways, I bought a heat sink today and installed it and getting normal temps now. Feeling wayyyy better :grinning:

Im honestly going to maybe wait, but i have an idea now of HOW i want to upgrade. I want to honestly stick with intel so im gonna go for a gen 10 chip. Im gonna get a LGA 1200 motherboard (thinking of getting a cheap MSI MPG z490 motherboard) and for the cpu i have 3 options. Im either going to get the i5 10600k, i7 10600k (and overclock it to be on par with a 10700k) or just get the 10700 [non K] (overclock optional) which i can get the 10700 [non K] for $250 dollars from my local shop so i might consider that deal.

Either way Im gonna continue doing research and asking questions. I honestly feel safer that i got a heat sink and new thermal paste on my cpu so im feeling a little more secure on waiting and patience.

Also than i might either consider keeping the heatsink I bought today or upgrading to an AIO (probably the Kraken nzxt x53).

I have a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WiFi mainboard, with a Ryzen 5 3600. I have 32GB of Corsair Vengeance RAM. I use a WD Black 1TB NVMe SSD. GPU is an Aorus 5700XT. Graphic are smooth as silk, with no stutters, tearing or artifacts. I can suggest those components with confidence; I’ve been running this build since April. Have fun!

just wait september there coming new nvidia

Probably will wait, but not for the GPU’s. i already spent 400 on my 2070 super… i’m gonna ride it out for at least a year or 2, i’m only open to upgrading MB and CPU. Those I will be patient with though… probably gonna wait for new chipsets and market to be a little more fair for these gen 10 cpu’s. I might just buy the motherboard soon and sit on it for a bit though. Gonna get the MSI MPG z490 LGA1200.

I think you’ll be happy with the Ryzen 3600. I’d go for the X570 chipset though on the mainboard. I’m stoked with my rig. Sounds like you’ve got all the rest of the hardware you need.

With new AMD CPU’s and major architecture revision just around the corner you’d be foolish to make a decision now.

That MSI board might just be a nice board… or you mire really really regret it.

If you really hate AMD and would never consider them then that’s the only way your decision to buy the board makes sense.

Just wait it out, AMD already have great value and mid-high tier CPU’s, and with Zen3 around the corner things will only get better.
Even Intel fans will benefit with Intel dropping prices to compete, so no reason not to wait.

I disagree with the other users suggesting an X570.
A B550 board will suit most people fine, and over the next few months i expect the B550 boards to cool off in price.
Only reason to get an X570 board is if you’re serious about overclocking, or a particular feature it has, or if you pick it up at an exceptional price.

AMD’s mid tier chipsets aren’t limited like Intel’s so they’re a great option.

You are in a position to get such a small performance boost, whilst waiting a few months could make that performance boost much much bigger.

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can you explain why i would regret getting a MSI MPG z490 board? If intel was the way im going just because, which would be a better option (even if it costed a bit more) and why.