New Player - New Planes

Hey Everyone

I am new to MSFS and can fly the Cessna 152 thanks to the tutorial but if I get into anything else, have the emergency crew ready to go, if you know what I mean.
My question is, can I switch the tutorial plane to learn another specific plane or when we purchase a new plane, does it give us the option to learn it step by step?
Probably not but wanted to confirm.

Cheers

No, the “training missions” are all that is there, with whatever planes they use in that mission.

YouTube is your best bet to learn to fly anything (including the 152).

Lots of real world pilot tutorials using MSFS and the various aircraft.

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Unfortunately not. Tutorials aren’t plane-specific, nor will they let you change planes.

The 152 tutorial teaches you the very basics of flight which applies to any small GA plane. From that point forward, it’s up to you to apply those basics to the different planes.

YouTube is probably your best bet to learn more stuff. There are a lot of great tutorial videos on specific planes, different avionics, etc.

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Welcome!

I agree with @Crunchmeister71 and will add that there are also a lot of GA-focused Twitch live streamers and/or Discord servers you can get involved with that will answer questions you may have and provide specific real-time feedback that YouTube can’t.

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Good to know, thanks for the replies!

Edit: Just found that in marketplace there are more tutorials for certain planes to be purchased.

IMO the choice of Sedona as a training airport is bad. Dont know why Asobo decided to make their tutorials there

you get strong turbulence with light winds and big downdrafts on finals
its in no way an easy place to learn how to fly

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Considering how the weather had very little effect on planes at the time of launch, it wasn’t really an issue at the time in terms of affecting flight characteristics of the plane. And I’m pretty sure it was likely chosen for its eye candy over practicality.

Even under those conditions though, Sedona is not an “easy” airport to navigate being elevated on a mesa like it is. It’s kind of like teaching a brand new, novice pilot how to take off and land from an aircraft carrier on their first training flights. They really should have chosen a simple little airfield with flat ground.

I don’t think anyone at Asobo realized just how terrible an idea this was long term now that they’ve added turbulence and other environmental conditions that weren’t in the sim at launch.

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IMHO i would not puchase anything to learn unless of course you really want to - YouTube has everything you need and more, look for SimHangar, Huddison, FlightInsight and more.

If you have the 152 OK then the 172 will be a good next step, followed maybe by the C208B :slight_smile:

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There are basically two sorts of planes: ones designed to be flown by a single pilot and ones designed to have a copilot. My suggestion is that you stick to the former sort for now.

The other big difference is whether or not they have a “glass cockpit” which in MSFS usually means a Garmin G1000.

There are YouTube tutorials that are worth watching to get the hang of the G1000. I’d not suggest buying tutorials.

Then there are the more complicated aircraft with variable pitch propellors, multiple engines and other stuff.

Remember that pilots spend ages learning to fly one model of plane. Many airline pilots are only trained to fly one model

Although it’s nice to try others, my suggestion is that you get better at the c152, the c172 and maybe one or two other similar planes.

Disclaimer: I’m not a real world pilot, nor would I want to be.

Completely agree. Also have to consider density altitude, especially in a 152 - that thing barely climbs as-is. Higher true airspeeds as well, and a nearly 2% sloping runway. There are hundreds of airports better suited to flight training.

The in-sim instructor is almost worthless. I don’t know how many people I’ve seen trying to do the cross-country, get lost, 180° turned around, now they’re doing 360° turns trying to get back on course and the whole time the instructor is saying “turn left” because they are to the right of the intended course if they were flying the intended heading, versus saying “head east,” or in reality “where’s the highway? Okay, head that way and follow it to the south.” Bugs the hell out of me.

I’ve seen people get extremely frustrated with all the things we’ve talked about here, to the point where they give up.

That said, if you are one of the lucky few that are able to go from no knowledge to sim mastery using the in-sim lessons, transitioning from Sedona to Galesburg, IL will be a piece of cake.

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Most of your initial training will be done in one type of aircraft, though this isn’t universal, but you’ve got enough going on that you don’t need to worry about the differences between aircraft.

The majority of flight schools in the US will start you in a Piper Warrior or Archer, a Cessna 172, or a Diamond DV-20 (sometimes DA-40s). Smaller schools might have a 152 (the larger schools also use them for CFI spin training). We’re starting to see the new Piper Pilot 100i hit some schools.

Some are going with light sport aircraft (LSAs) like the Sling, maybe a Cessna Skycatcher.

After you earn a private certificate, it’s a progression. If you’re learning complex aircraft (perhaps for a commercial certificate), that’ll often be done in a Piper Arrow, sometimes a Comanche or a Bonanza.

Other non-complex commercial training might be in a 182 or Cirrus SR-20/22, but might also stick with 172, PA28s or Diamonds, depending. Any of the above can be used for instrument training, if properly equipped.

For multi-engine training, these days it’s often in Piper PA-44 Seminoles. Occasionally you’ll see a Piper PA-34 Seneca or Beechcraft B58 Baron, maybe less of a chance they’ll have a Cessna 310 or a Beechcraft Duchess, but those are getting long in the tooth.

This doesn’t account for a lot of independent FBOs/CFIs who have a wide range of aircraft, or the owner/student who brings their own.

If you’re willing to do the progression and not looking to skip too far ahead, I’d suggest getting the JustFlight Arrow series and the Carenado Archer II. Heavily recommend the JPLogistics and WBSim mods for the stock 172 and 152. Almost every other aircraft I mentioned above is available in one way or another except the Skycatcher, Piper 100i, Duchess, and the Comanche, though that last one should be coming soon.

And as far as steam gauge vs G1000 - most flight schools are going toward the latter. I think it’s good to learn both as the skills complement each other nicely, but there’s obviously a lot more knowledge that goes into operating the G1000 correctly. That said, during your primary training, you’re mostly taught to get your eyes off of the instruments except to verify and cross-check that it’s doing what you want it to be doing. Eyes outside with short glances inside.

Hope that helps!

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The school I go have a PA-31 Navajo
dont see that often

Ya, that’s not super unusual. Same with the Baron, it’s kind of expensive to operate compared to the Seminole, plus they’re getting long in the tooth. I’ve seen Cheyennes and Aztecs out there as well.

Note that my list also left out all the tailwheel aircraft. Cubs, Citabrias, Huskys, etc. Lots of those out there as well, but again the bigger flight schools aren’t using them much except for tailwheel transition or spin training. You still see a lot of these at FBOs, though.

I should have mentioned the Diamond Twin Star is increasingly being used for multi-engine. And a lot of schools are picking up on TECNAM aircraft as well.

Diamonds are nice planes but very $$$$

Ha! Just did that tutorial! Where you have to follow the highway and failed the first time because I kept turning right not understanding what the instructor meant when my heading was off. :pinched_fingers:

Yeah, I definitely wouldn’t know this being that I started a couple weeks ago.

Cheers, thanks for your input.

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Yeah, it’s not good flight instruction. It’s “hit a point, and I’ll tell you a little about what’s going on next,” but there’s no situational awareness and there’s no evaluation other than whether you hit the points.

And as we said, the fact it’s in the mountains complicates everything. Beautiful, yes; useful, not so much.

I wish that people who earnestly want to learn things in the sim would hook up with people who could evaluate in real time rather than going through the balky tutorials.

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