It looks pretty similar for the most part…
I would say that’s pretty good. But I am a rookie
Definitely looks FSX/P3D
Just for fun…
Met some gentlemen with Nanchangs…
I am nearly crazy enough to buy this and report back. Nearly…
I’m already waiting for a fix for the Yak-18T by Nemeth, I’m worried this would just be another chunk of wasted hard drive space for a Yak-ish aircraft.
Bear has been around for a long time, but don’t have much at all in the way of reputation. They put out a wave of military aircraft around a decade ago with very few (and mixed) reviews. If this was $10-20 USD, I’d gamble.
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Here is what this guy said:
Hi.
Very thanks for your email.
This is video for cockpit operating during night flight in MSFS2020
Aircraft gauges build in models can work，but MSFS version has no FSx/P3D GPS 295 gauge, no bendix or becker avionics, no new WL5B ADF and TRK-123 comm radio gauge
The MSFS version have classic 1960s avionics, include WL5 radio compass, MiG style Hdg and CT-1 comm radio plus a transponder.
Some switch buttons such as starter button under safety cover, and intercom switch can not click to press by mouse.
About flight model, I make very simple flightmodel and make it working in both modes, just basic FDE from legacy copy to MSFS modern FDE CFGs. Some one report working in modern mode well, I test in legacy and modern OK.
I suggest using modern mode.
About price, I want to set 29.95 USD as my products as other websites release like my su27 and MiGs, but when simmarket release, it automatic set to ERUO finally as same number.
These switch issues maybe the mdl format issue or current MSFS SDK issue.
So if I make it clean when study sdk deeply and wait sdk update, I will make native model and gauges for MSFS upgrade.
I have stuck in china mainland and can not using youtube for video, so just few upload on vimeo site via unstable vpn tool on my iphone.
can not set video url on simmarket also, they only support youtube url on product page.
So if you can not see this video, or any issues, please let me now. Thanks
Bill Wolfgen
发自我的iPhone
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Ugh, I feel for the guy who is clearly trying and also battling censorship and SimMarket’s ‘take number and put whatever currency symbol before it’ policy. It doesn’t sound like a solid buy at all for MSFS though and I wouldn’t expect updates any time soon, or regularly after that.
Sounds like a good P3d product though and hopefully he gets his sales for that platform. I can’t see myself buying this for MSFS.
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I felt curious enough to try. It was a horrible idea. I am gonna let you know how he handles this. He can either do it gracefully and remove it from sale NOW or… I am gonna spread the word. FAR AND WIDE. Everywhere. (But the cockpit doesn’t look half-bad, actually)
This is my communication to him:
Bill,
This is HORRIBLE. I just purchased your aircraft and it literally does NOT work AT ALL.
Loading on runway:
Upon loading the aircraft is IMMEDIATELY launched 2,000 feet in the air and does barrel rolls until it crashes.
Loading on parking:
Not one switch works. Nothing. Nothing is animated at all. If you press Ctrl-E to start engine, the same thing happens, the aircraft jumps in the air and starts spinning upside down.
So now I wasted $36 US dollars on a product where NOTHING works at all. This is embarrassing and outrageous.
How are you planning to fix this situation? I would suggest that I open a ticket with SimMarket for a refund and when they contact you for authorization, you approve it on that ticket. After that I recommend immediately removing this from sale on MSFS. I am sure the product works on P3D, but it’s not fit AT ALL to use in MSFS. I don’t know what build of MSFS you used to test, but in the most current one (World Update 5), it does NOT work. Whatsoever. Please stop asking people to spend $36 on a product COMPLETELY broken upon purchase. I understand you are in the hospital and in China, and you don’t have access to MSFS, but this is completely unacceptable.
I await your response.
Regards,
Jeremy Smirnov, M.D.
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OMG. This and the C90 still not fixed. I said this was going to happen. Why is it acceptable for Flight models to be basic in MSFS it seems! Anyway.,. I said this was going to happen. I very nearly bought it today, but I decided to get the A300 on the line and will get the A310 online as well for X-Plane.
https://store.inibuilds.com/products/a300
It actually comes to £84 with Tax. but no bs, no compromises, it just works. There is no reason why this cant be the case in MSFS…but as I have said before Asobo keeps the bar low, I honestly think we will have the PMDG/Aerosoft a few other and that’s it at this rate…
Either…add-on devs just CBA or there is something stopping devs taking care of their add-ons.
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No access to MSFS? so how was it made? SImmarket will give you a refund
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I have no idea. Maybe he made it before he landed in a Chinese hospital with an old laptop that doesn’t run MSFS. He said that was the reason he couldn’t post MSFS screenshots - his laptop doesn’t run it. Either way, that video he posted (earlier in this thread) of the night test with this aircraft must have been made on an earlier build of MSFS. Cause right now it just flips in the air and that’s it. And none of those switches are working at all. I tried both Modern and Legacy flight models…
This is a f—ing plague on MSFS right now. I am so pi—d at myself for even being curious enough to give it a shot. He said it just has 1960s avionics. That would have been fine if it didn’t flip in the air as soon as you load it.
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The thing is, this is different than Bredok or whatever. I’m sure this thing works nicely in P3D (Jeremy you may be even able to test that) but somehow I don’t think the developer understands that these are 2 DIFFERENT sims. P3D code does not run flawlessly on MSFS by default. The dev, from the emails you showed, simply thought the same file and code would work in MSFS and did not test that theory.
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I am gonna try to install it into P3D and see how it is there…
But what about the videos he posted of himself flying it in MSFS??? AT SOME POINT it SOMEWHAT worked… Yeah, the switches were jacked, but… it didn’t flip!
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If that doesn’t work either then this is a scam on 2 sims 
It’s likely an older version of MSFS and a new update broke whatever converted parts did work. Either way, if it works in P3D but not MSFS it should ONLY be marketed to P3D. If it works in neither sim, well, tis a scam.
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that isn’t really an excuse, it was put on sale over 2 weeks after WU5 so it is rightly assumed that it should work with WU5
it’s understandable that the developer has personal situations that stopped him from testing it now but that doesn’t excuse selling a broken product with no knowledge of if it actually works. without that knowledge it should’ve been solely sold as a P3D product instead of some confusing hybrid.
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Oh lord. I hope you get a refund. It’s a pretty new low in a sea of lows for a developer to just blindly post a “well it worked once I my computer” build of what is likely a port of an already questionable addon. I think we all knew the outcome wouldn’t be great, and I had my finger on the trigger to buy after that video he shared showing the cockpit in MSFS because it looked like it might actually be usable (though his “simple flight model” comment alarmed me as well.)
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F IT! I am gonna buy myself a new Carenado Cessna 170, head home, and pour myself a glass of Angel’s Envy. Then I am gonna see if this Nanchang works in P3D. If it does, I don’t need a refund. I guess I will just keep it on P3D if it’s good.
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Isn’t it wild that in MSFS, Carenado has become one of the most trustworthy developers? 
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Such a bloody shame it turned out this way. Appreciate the feedback Jeremy, hopefully it is solid in P3d.
I also appreciate that the dev is currently in hospital but why release it when you are in no position to give support?
This kind of sh*t rarely happened in fsx/p3d/x-plane as they had established fanbases and users who could smell a limp release a mile off. There wasn’t much market for bad addons. Now MSFS comes out and these cash grab devs get all excited that they can shovel out half baked addons to a massive new and naive influx of players.
The good news is these new players will get wise over the years and people will see a new release and immediately remember the time they were ripped off by that same dev.
We’ll be alright once this sh*tshow calms down in a couple of years.
This rant is at all the devs who have looked at their half finished hackjob of a plane and thought they’d take people’s money for it.
Surely there must be some law being broken here. If I saw marketing on TV for a lawn mower, ordered it and it turned up half made and with a broomstick for a handle - surely that’s not just a refund issue but an act of false advertising with fines applicable.
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