Might try the alternate flight model available on .to.
ep (0009) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr
delta (0005) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr
N42DB (0004) by JanKees Blom, on Flickr
JKst08 by JanKees Blom, on Flickr
pt005 by JanKees Blom, on Flickr
jk5479 by JanKees Blom, on Flickr
Did you ever wish to do crop dusting with the Stearman ?
You can download the mod here :
WARNING:
This mod will replace and add files to the original ādcdesigns-aircraft-stearmanā folder.
It is safe to make a backup copy of your aircraft first.
This mod is for both Stearman variants (Standard and Faired) in version 1.0.6.
After download, unzip it in a temporary folder
All needed infos are in the install.pdf
For those who like me prefer to fly the Stearman in its ānakedā version, but find it underpowered,
you can replace the engines.cfg file with this one.
The parameters are those of the nine cylinders, 450hp non-turbocharged engine.
Unfortunately, the engine visuals donāt change (Iām a wizard, not God⦠).
But in flight itās really something else, much more pleasant to fly.
Blue skies
Credits :
XCVK1 Wild Acres is available on CanadianCaptainMoustache Discord
https://discord.gg/WgJrweqgRN
MV46ās Viaduc de Garabit
https://flightsim.to/file/17603/viaduc-de-garabit
Derpyairās Drinky Crow livery
https://flightsim.to/file/16837/drinky-crow-stearman-pt-17
Is this still the best (oh boy what did i do) biplane in the sim?
Objective emotionless unattached unbiased responses only please
The best biplane in the sim, to me, is indisputably the Tiger Moth by Ants.
In my subjective, emotional, attached and biased opinion; the Tiger Moth by Antās Airplanes is the best biplane we have currently.
I was thinking of the other biplanes we have in the sim and thereās quite a few now. I shall go through the ones I own and briefly consider if theyāre better than the Stearman.
Thereās the An-2 which I consider better. Although itās a bit of a weird one isnāt it? Kinda in its own category, canāt really compare it to the Stearman but I did anyway so thereās that.
The Beachcraft 17 Staggerwing, I rate it better but once again you kinda canāt compare it because itās a closed cockpit luxury passenger plane, quite a bit different from the Stearman. The Stearman is more fun to fly but I like the Staggerwing better overall.
The Bücker Jungmann by Lionheart Creations. A plane that Iād consider to be in the same category. I do like it but there was a weird issue where if you had it downloaded and installed every airport in the world would become a Jungmann convention apparently. It was a bit annoying so Iāve had it disabled for a while now although looks like a recent patch mightāve fixed that but Iāve yet to give it a go. Iād rate it around the same as the Stearman really, maybe a little bit below.
The YMF-5 by Carenado. A modernised version of the classic WACO. It looks better but I prefer the Stearman for flying as the YMF-5 cockpit is just too modern and clean for my tastes lol.
Back to de Havilland thereās the Fox Moth by Flight Replicas. Bigger lumbering plane but still open cockpit (but closed cabin). Kinda interesting and fun but Iād rate it below the Stearman.
Yet another one with the de Havilland Dragon Rapide freeware by Dave Garwood. Itās alright. Iād rate the Stearman above it though.
Back to WW1 with a couple of Nieuports. The 17 by Big Radials and the 24 by FlySimWare. I quite enjoy both of them but I guess WW1 birds are not to everyoneās tastes. Not sure how Iād rate them compared to the Stearman to be honest. Maybe a bit higher? Although again canāt really compare⦠but whatever I just did. Thereās also a Fokker Dr.1 freeware by Gotfriends but that has an extra wing so we wonāt count it (but itās good!)
The Curtiss Jenny. I like it and you canāt argue with free. Looks and sounds great as well. Very slow and cumbersome though. Iād rate it a bit below the Stearman.
Dorand AR1 A2. I almost forgot I owned this one. A WW1 bomber. Think the dev just bought a 3D model from one of those online stores and slapped a flight model and some animations on it. Iād rate it a fair bit below the Stearman. Just kinda meh.
The Grumman F3F-2 by Aeroplane Heaven. Kinda fun to fly but sounds really bad and Aeroplane Heaven aināt gonna bother improving it any further so donāt bother buying it. Worse than the Stearman.
Wright Flyer. Like the Jenny I do love it from a historical perspective and it is really well done, itās just not really something youāre gonna fly every day Iād rate it below the Stearman because of that but I still love it.
Dunno about this one but the Flying Flea by Rara-Avis sims, does that count? Itās more of a tandem wing jobby I think. But if it was allowed into the biplane club Iād rate it above the Stearman. I love those weird little things.
And I think thatās it for MSFS biplanes I own. Thatās quite a few Iāve been thinking about buying that Farman Goliath by Redwing for a while but not quire sure. Maybe one day. I think there might be some FSX portovers on flightsim.to Iāve not tried as well.
In terms of within the sim itself, the YMF-5 is my favorite biplane of the ones I own (Stearman, Jenny, the default Pitts aircraft, and the Wright Flyer being the others - in that order).
The Stearman was my favorite aircraft in the sim for a very long time, and is still probably my second favorite. I just wish it could be up to par visually with the YMF-5 and the Jenny. It could really benefit from some better texturing and rounding out some sharp edges. And of course a few more liveries would be great - but Iām just being picky. Iām on xbox so I donāt have the ability to download others. The Stearman is one of my very favorite aircraft in real life and in the sim, so I always want the best for it in the sim.
Think its starting to off the original topic.
Comparison is a good, healthy part of discussion in my opinion. I donāt find it off topic at all. Forum moderators may feel otherwise, I donāt know if there are rules regarding that, but I personally find comparisons helpful, particularly when interested in buying an aircraft.
A very thorough breakdown. Thanks.
I have a really hard time flying it as you canāt get away from looking at the trailing edge of the wings, which is much too thick in this model. Granted, itās not supposed to be a sharp tip either, but not this thick.
And the cockpit structure isnāt all that accurate either.
Itās nice though if you can ignore that.
The elevators are supposed to be full length, I think they got the propeller turning the right direction now.
@Megadyptes7635 nice list and sum up!
You forgot this one hahah
Praise from the list man himself! Iām honoured.
I did skim through my hangar looking for multiple wings and I did actually notice the forgotten Pitts, but then I got distracted by something else briefly and forgot all about it.
I hate to be āthat guyā but all these are ābi-planesā visually only.
Under the hood they all use a āgame magicā single wing for the flight model.
So while you may think youāre āflying a bi-planeā, youāre still only flying a single wing plane.
ah, the power of āgame magicā is truly astounding is it not!
Really we should be rating them on the quality of the open cockpit experience, more so than the flight model. Wind in your virtual hair, throaty sound of a big radial or sewing machine inline engine, creaking wires, that sort of thing.
Enjoy!
ps: Youāll have to wait for MSFS 2024 for a true virtual bi-plane flight model (or any number of wings/surfaces), as explained by the dynamic Masabo duo in their video from FSExpo.
From 8ā20" Seb explains the single wing hack and the new method:
Haha. Here he is again with that totally logical, accurate, valid and reasonable argument to spoil the mood!
Iāve known about the single-wing hack since at least FS9 but it doesnāt stop me enjoying them
I never said you canāt enjoy them or have fun. I alluded to that with:
Itās why I use the Stearman or Waco to get my open cockpit experience fix. I have some of the others too.
Thereās hacks all over the place to emulate flight behaviors, from the PC21 using a jet FM to invisible spoliers to emulate beta descents. No skin off my nose if a bit of āgame magicā is needed to make the UX.
Itās why I laugh every time I see someone go on about plane X being ārealererā than plane Y.
Lets not even get into the rivet counters.
What counts is the overall experience, which encompasses not the just flight model (faked or otherwise) but the modelling, texturing, interactions, sound (hugely important!), support material, product support, ete etc. You know it when you see it, and it definitely doesnāt have to cost a ton to pull that off.
Itās more a question of being a āreal enoughā experience it can transport you too, given weāre playing a consumer flight sim with a spectrum of control systems in a variety of different environments.
All that said, if youāre in any way interested in playing with the SDK you need to be aware of whatās happening under the hood.
I wonder if thereāll be a limit on the number of wings that can be simulated in MS 2024. Could be fun to have a fully simulated silly plane like this
Over 200 aerofoils on that baby. Apparently it even managed to fly 500 feet one time!
Wiki has a whole list of silly number of wings planes
Exceptā¦they didnāt flyš
But you can try!
Maybe we can do one of those whatcamacallit comps where they run off the pier for distance.
That could be a fun amateur builder comp in MSFS, sounds like tSFS 2024 will enable that to some degree.