Not happy about the state of the game, in some lights it comes shorter even from FSX

[LilPika]

@ToedPrism1

“I’m sorry if your car moves only if you push it but hey, you are using the expectation of cars moving with the engine you got from other cars…” I mean really? Of course I’ll look for what I wish to find to tell myself “ok it’s time to move”.

Yet you still made an UNINFORMED choice. You didn’t look up anything on youtube? You didn’t wait for reviews? You didn’t ask friends who already had it if it’d appeal to you and if it has the kind of gameplay that some would argue is overdone in the fightsim genre? You’ve only yourself to blame on this one.

@ToedPrism1

Seems like a lot of people have access to some kind of knowledge that those things will be implemented that I can’t find nowhere, any chance you can share it?

It’s a GaaS. They fix it or the game dies. That or a third party fixes it. The interface won’t hurt it. At all.

@ToedPrism1

Except I also fly helicopters and low routes so I’d like to see ground better too, but I guess you are not interested in any flight longer than a hundred of NMs and you just fly it visually or direct GPS route because otherwise I’d not understand your excitement and feel to defend the game even where it’s clearly a downgrade.

But you knew choppers were not here going in at launch. Everyone knew that. And I fly the gamut of aircraft both here and combat in DCS. Spend a lot of time in choppers and a lot of time in the F14 over there. Both rather different. Over here I do long haul when the mood takes me but mostly stay to VFR these days due to my schedule.

Yet you took the time to know choppers were not here but didn’t take the time to actually inform yourself about what the capabilities were of the stock sim aircraft you were going to drop, potentially, $100+ on. The reason I’m excited and willing to defend it? Because it’s NOT just another run-of-the-mill hundrum IFR flight sim we already have too many of. Sure it’ll come here sooner rather than later, probably within the first few patches, but you know what? I probably won’t touch it much. I’ve done thousands and thousands of hours of IFR and frankly, I don’t want another sim to turn into a YET ANOTHER IFR exclusive fan-club.

Nah I don’t buy it. These points are so superficial that they border on troll-level posting. (Seriously, change the god ■■■■■■ control filter). But your one and only complain with meat is “This sim didn’t cater to me and me specifically so it’s going to die.”

And I wouldn’t say I’m crusading. I’m just not crazy about selfish people who won’t let a platform develop into something new. Selfish, I think that’s called.

[ToedPrism1]

Sorry I had to re-specify “a downgrade on the points I made” yet another time as you seem to forget things said 10 minutes prior.

The SH is lucky in having their own crusaders already it seems.

[ToedPrism1]

@LilPika

Yet you still made an UNINFORMED choice. You didn’t look up anything on youtube? You didn’t wait for reviews? You didn’t ask friends who already had it if it’d appeal to you and if it has the kind of gameplay that some would argue is overdone in the fightsim genre? You’ve only yourself to blame on this one.

Sorry what? I went to a friend who got it and tried it out myself, I didn’t bought it, so not sure about what uninformed choice are you speaking of.
If you mean I have not followed every reviewer, alpha tester, youtuber, talk or whatever they put out then yes I didn’t because (1) they would be on an alpha so who knows what changed and (2) it’s not my work to follow the development and everything it’s said on it and (3) I’d check it out myself as I already had a friend that was going to buy it anyways, so better test it out myself to see if it appeals.

@LilPika

It’s a GaaS. They fix it or the game dies.

We are so lucky that you can read in your crystal sphere which of the two will happen.

@LilPika

If you think the interface is going to kill it

No, the GUI will not kill it, it’s just an awful choice but will not kill it if the other points are solid.

@LilPika

But you knew choppers were not here going in at launch.

You need some reading comprehension, I was replying to you saying I only fly FL300 in other sims while I clearly don’t.

@LilPika

Sure it’ll come here sooner rather than later

Haruspex

@LilPika

These points are so superficial that they border on troll-level posting.

Yea I mean, who else would care if half the flight simulation is nowhere to be found right?

@LilPika

But your one and only complain with meat is “This sim didn’t cater to me and me specifically so it’s going to die.”

Please point out where I said it, I said that the hardcore simmers that kept the old one alive were those not appealed by the current state of this one, it doesn’t mean it will die, maybe a hoard of gamers will play it forever, but it will not have at the current state the backing of those people that kept the other one(s) alive and well, plus it misses things that will keep it alive in the case the SH will pull the plug.
This is what I said.

@LilPika

And I wouldn’t say I’m crusading.

“That’s why I’m in every thread with a complain to let them know how and why they are wrong according to my opinion”

[LilPika]

I would like you go to back and read a response from Trixiel8629; I’ll highlight the important part:

@TrixieI8629

If you don’t have any confidence in this project and are disappointed by it even though you were there for FSX as you say, then i’m surprised by you on every level, so either you’re lying or for some reason you can’t see past your own frustrations.

I personally think you’re not making a single, valid argument outside of wanting more IFR. You don’t even own the game, yet you’re here making demands.

And not every thread. Just the good ones.

[ToedPrism1]

@LilPika

I didn’t wait for any info about the product I bought

@ToedPrism1

Sorry what? I went to a friend who got it and tried it out myself, I didn’t bought it

@LilPika

I’m going to say you can’t predict the future while conveniently ignoring the fact neither can I so this argument carries absolutely no weight whatsoever

You realized I was speaking about what would happen IF it dies right? And that’s an objective point to see what happpens worst case with your possible investment.

@LilPika

I personally think you’re one of the worst liars on this entire forum right now.

Lol you keep steering the point, you said things I blew with sources and you call me liar. Laughale.

@LilPika

Either get your refund and get out

Refund on what? Read above please, it’s not that hard.

@LilPika

sensationalising minor inconveniences

Half the simulation is missing = minor inconvenience, lol

@LilPika

Then you might want to get the hell out

Luckly this forum in’t your and you have no right to shut or make people who disagrees with you leave.

@LilPika

Just the ones with the pathetic buyers remorse on show.

Protego sanctis causa huh^

[AUA521]

You could never create a Tornado in FSX/P3D neither visual nor simulated. Don’t refer to addons, refer to the default FSX/P3D which looks incredible awful. And Icing isn’t simulated in FSX/P3D, not even the most addons have it. The only addons i know which simulated it are the Majestic’s Q400 and the FSL A320, and here also just visual.

The Sim is just 6 Days old and people judge it like it were Years old- comparing it with a fully modded P3D. It took nearly 6 Years until FSX was usable and some good addons were available. And then it was still just 32bit and we all had a lot of OOM nightmares. For 64bit we all had to wait till May 2017 when finally P3Dv4 was released. That are 11 Years from FSX release date!!

[LilPika]

So are you going to make any point or just go “NO YOU” as a response?

I think we’ve got to the bottom of this now. G’Night. Hope the door don’t hit you on the way out. Come back with some valid points, next time. “Half the sim” jesus. Makes stuff up about tornadoes and then says half the sim is missing XD

@ToedPrism1

Protego sanctis causa huh^

Naw. I have, perhaps rather ironically, been doing a long haul IFR flight and filling the time between WPs by browsing this train wreck of a thread. XD

[WatchfulLand959]

You could contact them directly here:

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

and share your inputs and noticed bugs.

[ToedPrism1]

@LilPika

Makes stuff up about tornadoes

@AUA521

You could never create a Tornado

Hyperbole

@LilPika

So are you going to make any point or just go “NO YOU” as a response?

I did it for the whole time, if it’s beyond what you can comprehend I have no fault in that and sadly can’t help you either.

@LilPika

I think we’ve got to the bottom of this now.

You know that metaphor about the pidgeon playing chess? You seem to be the pidgeon.

[NyxViliana]

A very quick reminder to everyone that posts here should conform to the Code of Conduct and Non-Disclosure Agreement.

In a nutshell that means:

• You can debate ideas, but you should not attack people
• Keep the discussion in this thread on-topic
• Do not discuss content from pre-release builds (Alpha/Beta)

[LilPika]

Two things I’ve spotted here @Nyx1819 :

Firstly: Never mind you didn’t see anyyyything~

Secondly: I THINK I’ve just found a bug with the auto-hide functionality that would allow a user to circumvent the filter. Would you like me to IM you with details of this? (I obviously don’t want to test it in case I get a slap )

And of course I apologise for my… ranting. I can get rather impassioned but I’m not above apologising when I’m called out for being a bad XD

[Strongbeard2]

@LilPika

@ToedPrism1

FSX at launch and, after 14 years, that’s simply inexcusable.

FSX might be 14 years old, but it’s had 14 years of extra content. Is the core functionality there in the base aircraft for simple IFR and VFR? Yeah, and it works fine. Is it missing stuff FSX had? Yeah, but then FSX also looks like ■■■■ and ran like it for it’s entire life and focused too much on IFR because let’s be honest, it looked like puke… so I’ll compromise a few things in the short term.

Right on point.

[SirMaxxi]

I understand that people are passionate at things but the same old issue comes into play whether it be on a football field, in a classroom or in a Forum Debating Microsoft Flight Simulator.

I’m going to ask one question to each and every one of you, BTW it doesn’t require a response, it is in actual fact about self reflection and its actually got nothing to do with Microsoft Flight Simulator.

Microsoft Flight Simulator is a response to your interests, but it does not shape who you are and how you choose to respond to other people who also share the same common interests, it does not however mean that we share the same beliefs, value systems and ways which we choose to share and more importantly listen to the views of others.

When you are personally very sure about how you perceive things you share those in a forum, others agree and then there are others who disagree right.

The difference in what happens next is entirely up to you, you can choose to respond and listen to that persons views and agree, disagree and agree to disagree.

That person like yourself has as much right to be able to share their views and you can also agree, disagree and agree to disagree and you also get to choose again to how you respond.

How you respond at the end of the day is your choice and its also a reflection on you, if you try to convince someone else and project your views onto them do you actually think they are going to respond positively to that because you said they have to believe what you believe!

If you choose to name call because someone name called you, be the bigger person and say nothing, digress, divert, steer away, leave, retreat, back off, whatever but retract yourself from the thread getting out of hand.

We are in a beautiful position here with something awesome which is this Sim, I ask all of you keep it on topic, remove the toxicity and love what we do, we do not have to agree on all things but in all things we agree on flight and the love of it.

Peace, chill, relax and have fun folks, remember nothing lasts forever lets enjoy this train while we’re on it