Official Discussion: May 26th, 2022 Dev Update

All of us would want more, i understand that but I think that Asobo is making a great job. I guess it is a difficult work to satisfy million of users in the world with many, many different configuration on their computers.
Maybe would more easy if all of us would have the same computer with the same hardware and software but this would be impossible, so will be impossible that all users be happy.

We have just to wait and see what will happen in the next releases, but i am sure that the things will improve, even though will never be perfect.

Instead I am very satisfy from MSFS2020 and i have few or no problem with the SU9, maybe because my computer is dedicated enterely to the simulator, no other software is installed on my system. Maybe this is that grant me more stability, but it is only my opinion and this is not supported by nothing

Donā€™t XBOXers have the same hardware? Thousands of them.

Which rather nullifies your argument, to some extent.

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As just stated this is precisely what we have with the Xbox userbase.

What is really frustrating is, right now, there is a 2400+ post long thread full of commentary on how the sim is behaving very differently between individual Xbox users ā€” even when the sim is stripped down to the base version.

I posed a Q&A question asking Asobo to explain what they thought the reasons this could possibly be. It didnā€™t get enough votes.

ALL of you PC users should want to know the answer to this, because if they truly donā€™t know why this is, then this development team is in serious trouble.

There has to be a logical explanation for the source of these varied user experiences and knowing the reason is the key to getting many of this simā€™s issues resolved.

Iā€™ve actually posed, to one Xbox user with serious issues, that he should ship his Xbox to me, who isnā€™t having serious troubles, so that I could install the sim on his factory-reset Xbox and see if I start to have the same issues.

Is the issue somehow tied to his user account, DRM, regional mirror server that hosts his installation files, Internet connection, route to servers ā€” what is it?

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Hi thanks for replying, the autopilot on A320 neo on my set up when the flight plan has be made and from the main screen to the copit on the glareshield it is on Managed with the yellow dot. The transition is always 5000ft FMC has selected ft indicated at points. Ater takeoff and permission is given to continue i switch the autopilot on and the plane takes the the route, the throttle then placed to climb position . The plane continues . When atc tells me to to start climbing further too say 15000ft I alter the v/s to too + say 1000ft and press or pull knob. The 15000 ft is indicated in blue the Autopilot is still on but nothing happeneds. When v/s goes off and the only way i can increase the hight is to pull up and autopilot disengage which is anticipated. Same applies when desending , it not controlling the decent. Im using xbox s and not PC. I was with xplane 10 for about 5 years and all was fine, till it changed to xplane 11. I the switched to Xbox.
Sorry it was a long reply.

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Having just read the script of the last Q&A. I look forward to the stated refinements to improve aircraft ground handling. I am somewhat concerned however about the changes to wind gusts. As any RW pilot knows that, especially with light aircraft and gliders, gusty winds can make handling, particularly on takeoff and landing, not only difficult but downright dangerous. Even experienced pilots, in my experience, were sometimes faced with a decision where it was prudent to leave the aircraft in the hangar, and stay on the ground untill the wind conditions improved. Please Asobo take care with this feature, trained pilots have difficulty seeing the Sim as gameā€¦just as RW flying never, ever is. I would suggest that without a switch to minimise wind gustsā€¦or turn them off completelyā€¦there could be a lot of unhappy users around.

Iā€™m far from an expert, but if the autopilot is in managed mode, leave the v/s alone. Just dial in the new height and right click to keep it in managed mode. I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever dialed in v/sā€¦I just leave the Airbus to manage itself, only changing altitude if I need to. :person_shrugging:

Cheers for coming back so soon , i will try that my friend if that works i will get back , thank you any for getting in contact and help. We are all learning something my friend. CHEERS.

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Super , its working and i found why it wasnt . It was my mouse buttons which was all mixed up. Its working like you said. Thankyou again for you help.

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Finally someone who agrees with me about it too. I canā€™t stand it when Iā€™m flying. Iā€™ve stopped using MSFS and my Xbox is packed away in the closet cause Iā€™m tired of it. Who knows when Iā€™ll use it again. Iā€™m just done with it for awhile. Iā€™ve moved on to Aero Fly now.

Didnā€™t they say that is would be either choose another airport, or use preset weather?
Because hey: we want realism, not gamification. Or is this a suggestion to be able to choose live weather, but with the possibility to opt out from v certain aspects, like gusts and turbulence.
Honestly I would find that a somewhat weak decision.

@JunkDouglas44 why donā€™t you choose a preset if turbulence bothers you? Besides, e learned from the Q&A that they will tweak it a bit for SU10. Hopefully it will be more fun for you afterwards.

Well said, nothing is perfect. One day it could be you!! Be thankful its not, Yet.

I donā€™t have an XBox and would love to know this.

Over the past 2 years, probably my most repeated quote on this forum is ā€œThe most consistent thing about MSFS is how inconsistent the experience is from user to userā€.

Prior to XBox / SU5 release, of course apologists would come out of the woodwork and explain to my ā€œdumbā€ ā– ā– ā–  (thatā€™s only been working as a dev for longer than some of them have been alive) how it was due to the wide variety of hardware out there and they canā€™t program for every unique setup (with an obvious lack of understanding of what DX is).

Then the XBox version was released. And lo and behold, the same inconsistent experience from user to user was showing up there as well. Which is something that shouldnā€™t happen on such unified hardware. Yet here we are.

Today, you can take 3 ā€œidenticalā€ XBoxes loaded with a vanilla install of MSFS so that you canā€™t blame marketplace add-ons. One is perfect. The other has stutters and pauses everywhere. And the other canā€™t even make it to the main menu without a crash to dashboard.

So yes, I would love to know why this is, as it points to a much larger problem under the hood that isnā€™t related to the end usersā€™ hardware.

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Excellent! Glad you got it worked out!

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Asobo heard you, and the others who donā€™t like the current turbulence. In the live Q&A Seb mentioned that in SU10 the turbulence is turned off when the wind is calm, unlike in SU9 where it is time of day dependent.

The thing is that pilots recognize 9 types of turbulence in the real world. So far MSFS hasnā€™t modeled a single one correctly.

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I wasnā€™t able to be around for the Live Q&A due to work but glad its going to be addressed. Iā€™ll have to pull my console out of my junk closet and re-hook everything up after the SU10 update.

You can watch it now on YouTube in case you werenā€™t aware.

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Ya I bookmarked it. Now just to find the time to watch it. :thinking:

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This will cost you far less time, and you can go through it in your own pacešŸ˜œ

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If you donā€™t want live weather there is a very simple switch, turn live weather off.

Asking them to actively interfere with which bits of live weather are and arenā€™t represented because some people donā€™t like realism seems a little bit silly. You canā€™t expect to fly in live weather, but at the same time if the weather is too bad complain that you canā€™t fly. Should they also remove fog because it prevents people flying?

I find this resistance to wind in the sim very strange. It is a core part of flight and for me making crosswind landings is one of the most fun and challenging parts of a sim. At the moment it isnā€™t there at all in live weather, and in presets hard to set up because the wind speeds in the menu bear no relation to what is produced in the sim.

Please donā€™t ask them to neuter live weather to make it easier. If you donā€™t like live weather no-one is forcing you to use it.

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