Original Bonanza and Baron

I can’t believe that 5 years later these two aircraft have not been given any love. Is Asobo/MS just hoping these will fall out of the sim. They might as well because these are worse than they were before there was Asobo/MS.

Sorry for the rant.

The freeware G36 Improvement Project by CaptMatto is a very good replacement. I flew it a lot before I got the BlackSquare Bonanza Pro (which is superb.)

One thing I learned in the dedicated 2024 Bonanza thread is that there were several bugs and complaints mentioned, but no one had bothered to open any official bug reports.

I think that’s the minimum I would expect from the community to officially raise bugs so if nothing else, they are on Asobo’s radar to prioritize and maybe fix.

I recently opened three Bonanza bugs that are obvious and easy to fix. (Trim wheel, ALT2 switch, and analog ASI).

I encourage everyone to vote for these bugs or open others to get some visibiltiy on what we want fixed.

No real need for it when the Black Square versions exist.

Are the Black Square versions available to console players?

Xbox X

Yes. The bundle is also available. I bought them as soon as they were available but they only showed up in my library if I installed them instead of streaming them. I don’t know if this has been fixed yet.

Not sure if they’re available for Career Mode though.

I almost exclusively fly in the G36 - originally with the CaptMatteo version as per BegottenPoet above, but now with the ArantisSim version, which I am enjoying hugely https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/released-msfs2024-bonanza-g36-enhancement-by-arantissim/712462/1

You may like to give this a go?

The ACCS (Air Conditioning Control System) is even incorporated.

I have FlightSimBuilder G1000s, which is why I prefer this one to the BlackSquare, which I think are analog-based.

So why are they in the base sim at all? Not everyone wants to drop 35 USD on a third party plane just cause Asobo messed them up in the sim. Most of us would rather have them fix it. “Just pay 35 dollars for it to be fixed lmao” :neutral_face:

Yes, they are options to fly in career. Largely they are not often flown because of the bugs and expensive maintenance.
Its a real shame these aircraft are just left to sit in a hangar.

TBH I didn’t know the stock versions are broken in some way.

But it’s always been the case that most stock planes are kind of “base coverage” and not the highest fidelity and most feature-packed. It’s unfortunate but simply the reality one learns to accept.

I was answering this question:

Presumably you’re talking about the default a/c: