I have briefly looked at these and would like to know what is the best option of CPU overclocking. The BIOS for MSI Unify MOB looks easy with its game button, as well as Ryzen Master and its game mode. I am not experienced (yet) on manual OC so i would just let the app make the decision without going to the limit or the 3900XT which is 4.7 GHZ
Also any idea for OC G.Skill Trident-Z NEO 3600 MHZ in the bios i told it what the timings are and speed yet it shows as 2133MHZ - i have also read to just leave it alone in the formus or i could get into performace issues
about your RAM settings in the Bios; just select the correct XMP profile, and don’t change anything else after that, unless you’re a hardcore mem overclocker guy there’s just too much to get wrong.
The bios. I have never liked any of the software options personally. I also wouldn’t mess with overclocking a ryzen cpu. You won’t get much out of it. Most people get better performance out of tweaking the PBO settings and letting it do its thing.
Im assuming you’re looking for a CPU overclock? If so you have two options, either Ryzen master or BIOS. MSI afterburner is solely a GPU overclock utility.
A couple of things about Matisse (Ryzen 3000) overclocking:
Safe voltage is considered to be 1.2 but some have gone and proven that 1.3V is safe. It’s commonly accepted that 1.4 is high and should not be used. It’s also usually said that for Ryzens, PBO will be more beneficial to most users.
My personal experience is that undervolts have worked well for my specific silicon. To do a CPU overclock you can have have FS running and Ryzen master open. Set the overclocking mode to “Manual” on the very top. Set the voltage to a safe amount and see how far you can go with your clock speed (try going with 25MHz increments). You can check the “apply and test” to test for stability (but it’s test is said to be not as effective as others, regardless it should be fine) and then test it with FS for further stability. Your system may crash or BSOD, it’s completely normal. Once this happens tune your clock back 25-50Mhz and you should have a stable overclock.
Don’t bother with Zen 2 overclocking. AMD seems to be allowing the chips to basically reach their full potential out of the box.
I’d say just go to your BIOS and enable Precision Boost Overdrive
On my B550 Tomahawk, just turn on Game Boost in the BIOS, and while saving just make sure the only thing changed is Precision Boost Overdrive from [Auto] to Enabled. If so, just save and reboot and you should have a small perf boost. My 3700X went from 4600 or so in R20 to 4835!
FWIW it’s impossible for an end-user to “prove” a CPU voltage is safe in the time the 3000 series have been on the market.
One of the main issues with high CPU voltage is electromigration, which happens over time (years, decades). Only when you’ve used the CPU at the voltage for 5+ years can you say it’s “safe” in the sense that the CPU will last for at least five years.
AMD of course has more advanced capabilities than the average overclocker, and can figure out safe voltage ranges without the need to test for years.
Yeah, you’re 100% correct. That’s why most people should just go with PBO (As OP has done), it all really depends on how much you want to bet on your chip. Personally I’m fine with what I have, 1.19V at 4.2Ghz and I don’t think it’ll pose any risk in the long run. I won’t take the risk with 1.3 either as you’ve said, it’s been proven by some to be safe, but others have also shown degradation at that voltage.
Funny experience with Ryzen Master. Fairly lazy way to overclock but one needs to experiment with speed and voltage. You think you have it right when Ryzen Master stresses your system and says things are ready to go. I’m then screaming my way through my old standby, FSX. Great!!! Now I go into FS20 and the dang system crashes before even getting to an airport to takeoff. FS20 must stress a CPU way more than Ryzen Master does.
I used CTR, got 4.275 GHz at 1.275V with LLC set to 3. Performance is around 10% higher than stock with roughly the same power consumption. Pretty great numbers!
I then put those values in the BIOS so I don’t have to go through windows.
Seems stable “normally” but crashes in Prime95.
Actually managed to beat my manual OC with PBO at better voltages.
PBO continues boosting while below 70c so if you can keep your load temps less than 60 you’ll go quite high. Mine boosts to 4.250 GHz under an all core load with a stock cooler with custom fan curve. Better cooler would let it go even higher most likely
