PC-24 - Pressurization and Reference Speeds and Checklist not set correctly in the Epic Avionics

[Yetalis1391]

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SIM INFORMATION

• Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024: 2024

• Version Build Number (Where do I locate that?): v1.2.8.0

• Game Platform (Steam, Xbox, MS Store): MS Store

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

1. Description of the issue: The PC-24 has not got its pressurasation and reference speeds set correctly in the panel.xml for the Epic2 Avionics. https://microsoft.github.io/msfs-avionics-mirror/2024/docs/epic2/integration/panel-xml-tag-documentation

There is a few key issues:

The Cabin Altidue is always flashing red, the pressure and cabin rate are not showing correctly

Working Title confirmed that this is due to the Aircraft Developer not setting this up correctly.

The reference speeds for the PC-24 are set incorrectly in the panel.xml they are incorrectly using the PC-12 speeds, this means the aircraft Auto throttle in FMS mode is using the wrong speeds and is trying to cruise at Mach 0.3

The checklist is not defined in the PC-24 but is working in the PC-12

3. If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
   PC-24

4. Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
   N/A

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)
Everytime

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue.

1. Launch the PC-24
2. Fly to FL300 using the Autothrottle (Reference speeds are wrong)
3. The CAB ALT logic is not working or implemented causing the ALT symbol to flash red
4. The checklist don’t appear which is required for the No Takeoff message to disappear

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[Datendenker]

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• same issues here !

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[speedwayst4r]

additionally: it’s not possible to change cruise speed from .470M to anything more appropriate (like 0.6M, which is standard for the PC24 i believe). after entering a different mach number, the MFD simply replaces it with .470 again.

[NorthernSigAv8r]

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• On the upper MFD, INIT pages, Databases tab, we can see that the PC47E-WT0453 is being used. thats a PC12-47E. not a PC24. so the numbers and programing is for the NGX not the PC-24.

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[WaiseBesen9926]

This seems to be fixed now.

Yesterday I was able to dial in .7M which this time wasn’t replaced by the MFD.

[speedwayst4r]

coincidentally i’m just about to do a PC-24 flight now. i’ll see if that works. cheers.

EDIT: it works now. thanks for the heads up.

[Smarley1]

the speed also for approach seems to be wrong, low close to stall speeds.
Someone know what is the correct value for this airplane?

[speedwayst4r]

@Smarley1

the speed also for approach seems to be wrong, low close to stall speeds.
Someone know what is the correct value for this airplane?

VREF (reference speed, final approach) | 102 KIAS, from pilatus-aircraft.com.

see the following:

[MSFS2024] Pilatus PC-24

note that in-game, Vspds are Vr, Vx, Vy and Vt, whereas they should be V1, Vr, V2 and Vt. this is probably because they’ve been copy-pasted from the Pilatus PC-12. TLDR climb speed summary takeoff: V2 = 96 knots once V2 reached: V2 + 10 knots flaps up: 170 knots above 2500 ft + 4 miles from runway: 200 knots above FL350: mach 0.6 cruise: mach 0.7 you’ll have to change the speed source from FMS to MAN and bug these up yourself, since unfortunately the avionics won’t do it for you, leading t…

[MSFS2024] Pilatus PC-24

(from pilatus-aircraft.com) Performance Balanced field length (MTOW, ISA) | 2,930 ft Rate of climb | 4,070 fpm Landing distance (MLW, ISA) | 2,375 ft Max cruise speed (FL280) | 440 KTAS NBAA IFR range (long-range cruise) | 2,106 nm Max operating altitude | 45,000 ft Limiting and Recommended Airspeeds VS0 | 82 KIAS V1 (takeoff decision speed) | 96 KIAS VR (rotation) | 96 KIAS V2 (takeoff safety speed) | 106 KIAS VT (takeoff target speed) | 170 KIAS VFE (max flap extended), flaps 8 |…

[Chewwy94]

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.

[Spongebob17554]

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[GaetanG5006]

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• same here also

[CagnotteNote629]

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• Same issue. You can change speeds, cruise alt (or other) by turning speed knob from FMS to MAN and entering news values in the FMS (selection in the lower screen).

[MarkyMalarkie]

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

Regarding the PC24, love the aircraft, but the speeds are way off for both TAKEOFF and LANDING

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

NOT RELATED

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Everytime no matter what takeoff altitude or landing airport altitude

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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1. The Pilatus PC24 is an aircraft made for short take-offs and landing.
2. The published stall speed of this aircraft s 83 knots, the model currently
3. stalls + 105 knots. The model is over 20knots too high for stall.
4. The take-off speed is also off, another +20 knots to high.

It is a very enjoyable aircraft. please fix these speeds.

YOUR SETTINGS

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NOT RELEVANT

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

NO

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX11

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

MEDIA

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[MTPilot6506]

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• Same

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• Same issues here. Both v speed issue and cabin pressuization.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
Pressurisation on the PC-24 sometimes is incorrect, my poor medical patient has frozen to death.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
PC-24

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
No community folder this is empty

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Intermittently, sometimes this is ok.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1. Fly medvac mission in career mode
2. Check pressurization
3. Sometimes this is problematic and errors

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
Thrustmaster T1600

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
DX12 MS 2024

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
Nvidia 4070 Super

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
Intel 13700KF

MEDIA

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[AtriusLUL]

Your oxygen is not active in this picture. See to the left of your co-pilots yoke.

[zooze74]

Thats interesting maybe i pushed that by accident.. will test tonight and close this if thats the case.

[CasualClick]

It’s part of the checklist iirc.

[zooze74]

And i always follow the checklist i suspect it got dissabled by me moving the mouse over it and accidently clicking.

[AtriusLUL]

For what it’s worth, i have not had any problems with the PC-24 pressurization in SU2. Oxygen is indeed a part of the normal checklist.