PC-24 stall speed too high

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: The PC-24 stalls around 100-105 KIAS at max landing weight with full flaps and gear down. According to the manufacturer’s data sheet, it should stall at 83 knots in that condition.

This happens in SU4 (build 1.6.34.0) and the SU5 beta currently available on Steam. I don’t know about earlier versions.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Every time.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Select the airplane in Free Flight.

  2. Configure the fuel and payload to approximate the max landing weight of 17,340 lbs.

  3. Take off and climb to about 4,000’ MSL, reduce speed, deploy flaps and gear at appropriate speeds.

  4. Reduce power and hold altitude until stall occurs.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU, 32 GB DDR5 RAM

MEDIA

The stall warning begins about 10 seconds into the video. The actual stall happens about 10 seconds after that.

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this needs to be fixed.

stall speed is like day one topic into flight training.

the model itself is great but these things are ruining the whole product.

dear carenado please, I’m begging you, adjust lift, drag in [AERODYNAMICS] and/or [FLAPS.N] section.

[REFERENCE SPEEDS] also but the speeds in this section are just for instruments and doesn’t affect the actual flight model.

or

you can decrypt it so I can fix it by myself.

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The PC-24 is an absolute shame in my opinion. It is beautiful and I love the flight deck - there are also great career missions with it. BUT the flight model is broken and that is a fact. You have to land at much higher speeds like 120 to 130 kn to avoid stalls as described in this post and then it bunny hops like crazy. I also have the feeling that the auto deployed spoilers have little to no effect. I need to avoid this beauty in career mode to protect my „S" reputation because with these flight model errors it is impossible to manage a smooth landing.

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I totally agree. For what it’s worth, I’ve done landings both with and without spoilers and they do help. The plane still needs a lot more runway to land than it should, though.

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Looking forward to the day this is going to be fixed. Sigh.

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Stall speed is indeed high.