Hi everyone,
I am on i7-7700 @4.20
16 gb ram
a BenQ GW2765 2560x1440 QHD(WQHD) on a GTX 1070
A DDR4 16gb 1063mhz by samsung
I would like to upgrade a little my PC for running FS2020 better.
No, no 3080, no 3090.
My budget is not that great.
Maybe 700 eur.
I was thinking about some ram and a new video card.
Any help is reallu appreciated!
Thanks
The 3060ti seems like a good cost to performance ratio. $400, but not sure how much it is in the EU
Thanks for your answer! What about ram?
16->32 ? Should I buy another 16gb equal to the one already installed and mount 2*16?
Or should I completely change?
No idea if a 16 gb ddr4 1063 is fine
What motherboard do you have? DDR4 1063Mhz seems a bit slow to me, not sure what max speeds your motherboard supports, ideally jumping up to 32GB RAM hopefully faster than 1063mhz, (mine’s at 3600 and its so fast) … installing on an ssd drive, but most importantly best investment will be graphics card, 3070 maybe and make sure your power supply is powerful enough… a budget can change over time, apply your current budget on things like SSD drive, and whatever you can afford for GPU but anything below 2080 Super … not sure you’ll appreciate the quality for the investment … also 3070 card now less expensive than 2080 super… good luck - i got in debt for this sim 
I have a Z170 HP 830C Thimphu-k and I am sincere I have no idea what can support )ram, video card ecc)! Really appreciate your helps guys
I’ll look for ya
Dual channel (2 DIMMs per channel) memory architecture
Four DDR4 DIMM (288-pin) sockets
Supports PC4-17000 (DDR4-2133)
Supports 4 GB and 8 GB DDR4 DIMMs
Supports up to 4 GB on 32-bit systems
NOTE:
32-bit systems cannot address a full 4.0 GB of memory.
I’m not sure how to verify if you have 64 bit system (maybe depends on windows version - but really, to be sincere, you won’t be able to BUILD up a system to great performance slowly over time, unless you start with the motherboard itself, i used to build pc’s a long time ago but they have really changed mine has liquid cooling now etc… but unless you start with the basic, the motherboard to which all other devices connect, i think it is a waste of money almost to try upgrading that existing one … i would consider xbox if i were you if you do not foresee being able to spend 2000Euro over the next year on a good PC build …
Right-click on Windows icon > System. That will tell you if you’re running 32 or 64 bit. But I hope no people with gaming PCs these days except for people requiring specialized legacy support will be running 32 bit.
Wonderful thanks for the tip! I’ve been on iMac for 14 years used to be a win98 S.E. pro!!
I think you really need to ask yourself where you want to get to for a start i.e. what does better mean?
I run a i7-7700 and a GTX 1080 with 32GB of RAM, I have everything on high and I am getting pretty good result’s at 3440 x 1440.
Yes I would like to push it higher and have saved a considerable amount towards a completely new computer, but I am waiting, firstly for the CPU and GPU market to sort itself out after all the latest release’s and secondly to see where Asobo go with the optimisation they are currently going through.
My point being it may be worth your while just holding fire at the moment, I am sure things will change on many fronts during the first half of next year, the optimisation of the game its self and the prices and availability of GPU’s and CPU’s.
If you are on a budget you may get more for money, with a little patience.
First of all thank you everyone for the help and taking time to answer! Marcy and Lynhoff.
Secondly… TicToc, you take the point too.
FS2020 runs fine on medium graphic (it is still amazing, the sceneries, the sunset, the sunrise… the clouds. They made an amazing job) Sometimes I am like an idiot because I freeze in front of such beautifull colors.
I think you are right, maybe it’s better to hold a little time and think of a new pc in the next 6/12 or more months.
I just wanted to make the game a “little lighter”. This is Aspen at medium graphic.
CPU seems fine, memory… strained, GPU struggles
The good thing is, whatever modern video card you buy will be useful in any upgraded system you create in the near future. As long as you don’t buy a tiny case or lower-wattage power supply. Something like a 3060ti should serve you well for a few years even after you upgrade your motherboard/CPU should you do so in the next year or two. Unless you want to get heavily into VR or other really intensive application where you will want whatever performance you can get. But maybe even the 3060ti is good enough for that, depending on the resolution you want to run. Not sure if we have enough benchmarks for it yet to really say.
But what I’m saying is don’t wait on upgrading the gpu even if you plan on rebuilding soon. Because you can just use it in your new build, and a new gpu will benefit you immediately even if that is the only thing you change.
Your system is fine don’t waste money on upgrades that won’t improve must.
2 Things I suggest you upgrade go to 32GB of ram the highest speed you M/Board can handle and a Samsung 1TB SSD.
I was a ALPHA/BETA tester and my system is:
CPU i9 9900K o/c to 4.7Ghz
32GB Corsair DDR4 3200Mhz
Asus M/Board Z390 Strix H-Gaming
2 1TB Intel SSD drives
Corsair 240mm water cooler AIO
Corsair 850XT power supply
Gigabyte GTX 1070 8GB
Corsair 275 Case
Ran MSFS2020 very smooth.
I’m not so sure about the part where you say that upgrade won’t help. I went from a 2070 to 3080 and my frame rates just about doubled. I’m sure that going from a 1070 to 3000 series would improve quite a bit.
But that also depends on the resolution. OP says he is running on QHD, so it should be pretty GPU-dependent.
It all depend on the overall system are you running a i7 7700 CPU?
Remember hardware are made to specific specs and old system you won’t get must improvement, because it will bottle neck somewhere.
I’m an AMD guy currently. 3600xt.
Yes, on an older system it will be bottlenecked at some point. So he would benefit less per unit cost using something like an RTX 3090, even if that was within budget.
But my understanding is that the higher the resolution, the more the bottleneck moves to the GPU, vs the CPU and system memory at lower res.
His CPU is 4 generations back
i7 7700 his not recommended cost to high for little gain.
i7 8XXX maybe an improvement
i7 9XXX yes to upgrade to RTX 3000
i7 10XX yes to upgrade to RTX 3000
What if a 3060 ti + some ram?
I am sure you would see some gain, but I am not sure you would see value for money !! I guess that would depend on your point of view. I guess you would end up CPU limited and not get the full value of the GPU.
@JD4PM1975 makes a very valid point in that its about the whole system with MSFS.
If you do go this route remember to check your power supply to ensure you have the right connectors and that it is big enough/powerful enough to run the whole system.
I run an I7-7700 with a 1080ti. I’m overclocked to 4.7 and use 1440p ultrawide. At ultra preset I can just about maintain 30fps. Dev mode shows I am GPU limited. Recently went from 16g to 32g ram and noticed zero difference.
I reckon the 7700 is a pretty good chip and if the 1080ti (watercooled with a custom loop) is limiting me, I think the 1060 is definitely your weak point.
Forget the ram. Invest in a good cpu cooler, OC you cpu a bit and spend as much as you can on a good gpu. Maybe RTX3070? Although, AMD is certainly looking good these days.
Basically, pour all your upgrade coin in to your gpu. Your cpu, although old, is still capable with a little TLC. Upgrading ram simply won’t let you see a performance difference and I guarantee if you do upgrade it, you will be disappointed approximately 5 seconds after the game loads and nothing changes!
Personally, I’m waiting for things to settle after all the new product launches and then looking at a ryzen 5900x cpu and a 68/6900xt. Unless Nvidia do something special with a 3080ti.
My 2c
