Yea, I’ve managed to figure out the A/T in manual mode, which is no longer my problem. Now, though, I’m experiencing an impossible approach path. The FMS is insisting on bringing me into the airport on this approach, which is simply impossible and doesn’t capture the G/S:
How can I program the FMS to actually line me up correctly? I’ve tried everything using the Rwy/App/Star function and it just won’t work for some airports.
Is there a way to manually manipulate the point at which I want to cross this waypoint? Maybe using the intercept function, but when I tried that, it removed the rest of my way points.
There’s a feature in the FMS that I have not tested yet: select the destination runway and in the menu you’ll find the Intercept option, that opens this screen:
I guess this is some kind of OBS that you may use to create a custom approach. But for the moment I don’t relay on approaches created by the EFB and I’m creating my own approaches, waypoint by waypoint. I’ve not used that feature yet.
Is possible to do it in the FMS selecting the option Amend Route, but its not very friendly. Normally I design the approach in the EFB and then load it in the avionics. I create two or three waypoints aligned with the runway (if possible, there can be mountains), or use existing waypoints if I find proper ones.
I must say that I’m using SU Beta 1. Before Beta 1 custom waypoints could not be added to the Honeywell, in both Pilatus. The final release of SU1 is only a couple of weeks away, but if you are not using I reccommend it, both Pilatus work better.
I am a firm believer in trying to figure things out myself, so I deleted my last post after being successful with the amend function in the FMS. My approach now looks like this:
I am hoping that this will allow me to properly intercept the G/S and use the APPR function. I found those waypoints using the Flight Planner tool…would that be your suggestion as well, or is there a different method? How do you create your own waypoints using the FMS, not sure I figured out how to do that bit.
I am on the beta SU1 and it’s made flying this plane enjoyable (for the most part).
In career I don’t go to the Flight Planner and try to do everything with the EFB. Is not so good but is faster. It’s not so bad if is possible to send it to avionics. Alas, not all planes allow that for the moment. The C90 does not load the EFB flight plan.
Yes, both Pilatus are usable in this Beta. Still far from what they should be, but usable. And both are very enjoyable.
Ahhh, I didn’t think of using the EFB, I’m going to have to try it next time. That being said, waypoints are not showing up for me on EFB. I’ve checked the settings and they’re on, but I don’t see the same ones I would on the Flight Planner.
Speaking of the EFB, and I know this is off topic, but does the takeoff/landing performance work? It doesn’t for me, but wondering if it’s a mass issue or not.
I think it doesn’t work, at least I have not found any way to make it work. And airliners have their own EFB and performance calculator. I guess is a placeholder for a future feature.
Hey man, another question, if you don’t mind. When you fly in your PC-24, do your fuel tanks often become unbalanced? I’ve been enroute to my destination for a little under 2 hours, started with both tanks at full, and now my right is reading at 811 remaining while my left is at 1082. Ultimately it isn’t going to matter since I’ll make it to my destination with fuel to spare, but seems unusual to me, unless it has something to do with the “phantom throttle” issue?
Hi, I’ve not experienced this in my flights, it’s weird. Anyway you can link the add fuel command to a key binfding and load fuel on the fly. Not realistic but it can save your flight. Loading fuel from the EFB in career does not work at all.
Now I remember that this happened to me the first time I rode the PC-24 but I thought that I had done something wrong, and anyway I could not finish the flight. Only the right pump was on. I didn’t find a way to turn both on… Never happened again in Beta 1.
On my flight yesterday, the fuel and A/T seemed to behave, so maybe it’s hit or miss at the moment. The fuel pumps are always on, but sometimes the A/T acts up and has one engine at a different % of power, which I guess would eat more fuel…very strange.
My bigger concern, though, is that I still can’t get the APPR function to work. I believe I’m setting it up correctly in the FMS, and everything else works (VNAV and NAV), but when it comes time to land, the APPR function won’t engage. Anyone have any thoughts or advice here?
Thanks!
Okay, so I have an update: I was able to make the APPR work when I was on an RNAV approach, but not when I’m on a visual approach. Maybe that’s normal, but I thought the FMS has a built in system, even if the approach is VFR to glide the plane down correctly. Am I wrong in my thoughts?
you have to tell the autopilot what approach you want to fly before it can give you approach guidance.
unless you have either a “straight in” approach (which generated a 3 mile final approach fix at 2000 ft above the threshold) or a published approach (ILS, RNAV) loaded into the flightplan, APPR mode will do nothing.
I do set it up in the FMS as part of my pre-flight inputs. I have no problem getting it to work for the ILS/RNAV approach, but the Straight-In does nothing. It takes me right up to the last waypoint before it should capture the glideslope but then doesn’t engage. I can’t even get the function to go on (green light indicating it’s on, or the indication on the screen that it is searching for the glidepath), it just stays off.
I’ve completed a medevac flight from LEVC to LIRP using an ILS approach and it has engaged well. It’s somehow confusing because the FMS arrow is magenta while in other avionics its color changes to green when you switch from GPS to LOC
I’ve used the approach as it was configured from the EFB and I’ve only added a couple of waypoints before the approach to soften the descent. You must be very careful with the speed anyway. The AT is completely unusable and the approach can be spoiled if you don’t take care of the descent speed by yourself.
Thanks. I have no issues getting it to work on an ILS or NAV approach, it’s the Visual one I’m having trouble with. Are you successful in getting the APPR to work when on a visual, straight in approach? If so, what steps do you take, please?
Wait, what exactly do you want to achieve? APPR works when you have a guiding beacon of sorts, so a localizer, or maybe a vor/dme? or rnav. Without that, how do you expect it to work? You can use vnav to make the approach but you will have to take care of the last bit because vnav can take you way off the runway (short most likely).
I might be wrong, but in order for APPR to work you have to tune a valid nav beacon in the nav radio, otherwise there will be no guidance - again, not sure about rnav but I’d expect for it to also requires some kind of radio beacons.
