Pilot avatar defaults to a woman in free flight in 3rd party aircrafts

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
In free flight, in external view, I have a wrong pilot avatar with 3rd party planes. I tried the Wilga, the Sting, the DA-50, and all showed the same woman. I recreated a (male) pilot avatar but the same woman showed again.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:

Wilga, Sting, DA-50, TL-3000,…

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

Yes, but the problrm is still present

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Begin a flight in free flight with a 3rd party aircraft
  2. Switch to external view
  3. It’s a woman

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

No

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

MEDIA

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Hi @ButeoButeo2369 ,

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I saw this last night in the Comanche…woman, brown coat with sunglasses

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I’m assuming this is because it’s not officially supported in MSFS 2024 yet. When outside the aircraft I have a MSFS 2024 female avatar and I do inside as well however it’s a MSFS model.

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FS2020 planes running in FS2024 use FS2020 avatars but there’s no interface in FS2024 to select which pilot and co-pilot you want for FS2020 planes. (Prior to Sim Update 1 these models simply weren’t showing at all.)

I guess adding a selector for FS2020 aircraft pilot/co-pilot avatars would be a Wishlist topic.

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Personal Comments and Observations - I am also a QA Staffer for a Dev Partner

If you are a Pilot in Command - Male and Co-Pilot - Female in FS2020, those settings will carry over if you are using a migrated FS2020 plane in FS2024.

The direct result is that you - the male avatar - are now outside the aircraft for the mandatory walkaround. Hence, the Navigation Graph function (which handles avatars among other things) needs to populate a pilot in the FS2020 aircraft (which has no conceptualization of walkaround). So it defaults to the Co-Pilot in place of my avatar. In my case it’s the Female Avatar.

Just a limitation of 2020 migrated content in 2024. I don’t expect that to get addressed because of the walkaround requirement. It’s just the way things are.

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This started after SU1.
Almost all my addon aircraft in FS2024 are affected.
In those aircraft that have the ability to enable/disable, the avatars can be turned off, but those that relied on the “weight at zero” FS2020 method can not be disabled.

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Here is a way to change the pilot, albeit temporarily until the next update. Then you have to remember to do it again!
From the A2A forum:

aircraft.cfg
[PILOT]
pilot = “Pilot_Male _Casual”
copilot = “Pilot_Male_Casual”
instructor = “Pilot_Male_Casual”
pilot_default_animation = “Idle1_PosePropeller”
copilot_default_animation = “Idle2_PosePropeller”
pilot_attach_node = “PILOT_0”
copilot_attach_node = “PILOT_1”

Click for a detailed how to...

Credit: @RonAttwood
There’s a config file change you can do to temporarily mitigate the issue.
The aircraft.cfg we’re talking about is in the main aircraft folder i.e. Community folder\a2a-aircraft-pa24\SimObjects\Airplanes\pa24-250

In there you will, hopefully, find aircraft.cfg. Click on it. You will be confronted by an array of text. The second block of text is marked [PILOT]

Still with me?

First line is pilot = “Pilot_Female_Casual” Using you typing skills change the bit that says ‘Female’ to Male

Close the document and click Yes when asked if you want to save the changes. Failure to do that last bit will result in the bloody woman still in the drivers seat!

Hope that helps.

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Thank you very much for the reply. I won’t have any trouble following your instructions….best :slightly_smiling_face:

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What if I’m playing on the GeForce Now cloud gaming service, where modifying config files isn’t an option (or on Xbox, which probably has the same issue)? Does anyone know how to change the pilot to a male on the 2020 aircraft in MSFS 2024 in this case?