Hey.
The Pilots view is broken. I cant anymore lift the camera to see over the panel so i can see the nose of the plane.
When i press spacebar for the landingview and the lower the camera hight. I cant lift it anymore…
i think the issues shows up already before the update 1.13.16.0
this issue is confirmed on the following planes:
Planes will be listed as reported…
Same here.
Hello,
I moved your post to Bugs & Issues. That’s the best place to put issues you are having.
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thanks and sure, i have done it 
Wow, great, thanks!
The spacebar key needs to be rebound. First unbind, then bind again. Happened with USA update.
i will check it out tomorrow, thanks for the hint
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Brief description of the issue:
Increase Cockpit View Height doesn’t work in some default aircraft
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Choose either C172 Map any key to “Increase Cockpit View Height”
Press key to raise pilot head position Height decreases instead of raises.
Player is unable to raise view height to a normal seated position ( even using SPACE - it’s too low )
This happens to a lesser extent in the C152, SR-22, Beech G58/G36 and some other default planes. ( these hit a height limit too quickly, but the “view UP” key will actually move the camera up a bit )
All the 172s are “broken” though. Pushing the key mapped to “Increase Cockpit View Height” will actually lower the view.
Players should be able to set any view height ( even if it’s wrong ). And esp if you can’t raise the view on a default aircraft to a normal seated view IRL
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Since I can remember, verified on SU9
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There were graphical clipping issues that occurred while changing camera views in some instances. Perhaps whatever “fix” that got applied causes this problem as a side effect.
I’ve been flying the C172 G1000 version a lot and can’t say I’ve noticed any problems with camera height. If you move the camera position closer to the windshield, you can also raise it higher.
you can fake it in VR as well, by calibrating the position too low, then sitting up - but the keys should work like they’re supposed to either way…
that fwd view thing is weird… maybe the movement is affected by a collision volume and moving the camera right up to the panel gets it in front of the volume? but as soon as you move back, and then press UP again, the view actually moves down
This is pretty annoying. I’ve found that resetting to the default pilot view first allows the height increase to work, but skipping the extra keystroke would be nice.
The same happens in the new glider - LS8. The default view is definitely too low and the camera cannot be elevated.
you can hit SPACEBAR for “landing view” and that will boost it up enough - but you can’t adjust it higher
a bunch of planes have this issue - IDK if it’s collision for VR or something, but it’s annoying that you can’t put the camera where you want… or at the height of a normal person sitting in the cockpit 
Thanks. I use the landing view, but it’s a stop-gap and a precise height control would be much better 
Actually, it’s the landing view, and than a bit lower in most cases. And this “bit lower” part is tricky - if I don’t get it right I start over - default view → landing view → bit lower
yep - do the same here, depending on the plane… they just need to give players full control and let them clip the camera if necessary
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Cessna 172 classic
Brief description of the issue:
When I hit up arrow to increase the cockpit camera height, it doesn’t go up. But it can go down all the way. Other planes work as intented
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Yes*
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*I’m not sure this is a bug as it affects other planes. There is clearly a bounding box within which you can move the camera around, and there is a high limit, just as there is a limit to the left or right. It’s not a 172 issue specifically as far as I know.
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You can set the cockpit camera height under General Options to your desired higher position (needed for VFR flying), but every time, as soon as you touch a keyboard UP or DOWN key, it lowers to a pre-set (default?) position. To return to your desired higher cockpit height you have to go back to General Options and reset it.
This indicates that the “bounding box” described above is not always operational, but is connected to the keyboard UP/DOWN key settings.
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Set custom views (control+alt+#), change reset default view to set custom camera 1 on your ‘snap back’ default. Set Alt+1 to your favorite pilot view. It will go back to where you really like it.
Add additional favorite glances/zoom/over the hood/passenger seat views in order of preference then tie a hat/toggle to next/previous custom camera. Set the highest saved view to another cockpit view of importance(I have pop-up/landing views as the highest). Usually you can get pilot in command preferred as view 1, most common instrument glance as 2 then if you have like 6, for instance, set 6 to pop-up/get-your-bearings view so the hat toggles up to the instrument view first and down to the most desired secondary view.
All the default views are awful, in every aircraft 3rd party or otherwise. They are often compromised to get the best overall ‘look’/legibility on an average monitor, not what a pilot would actually see in flight. BUT, if you hit ‘reset view’ button twice, it toggles between your view and original default, so you can keep your preferred view which may be higher where you can’t see primary buttons/levers, but another push gets you the default with them. Small planes you don’t look while flying with the landing lights switch in the peripheral. Most defaults are at so far off an angle from true straight ahead you can’t visually line up a landing properly.
The A36 bonanza is worse than the 172, even in front of a big 55" TV, you can’t raise the camera to a natural high enough position, although the big screen lets you get away with it. In outside view, you can see the plane is either scaled 120% or the pilots are only 80% sized… Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. The default 172 view may be the best of them all, IF you have a giant TV/monitor. I can definitely see it being too low on a computer monitor.
But tweak and save a new ‘default’, it really makes a huge difference.