Pilot position Wrong when starting 787 and 747 in VR

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

When staring a flight with the 787/747, the pilot position wrong. With the 787, your position is almost under the instrument panel. With the 747, the pilot is way out in front of the cockpit and way above the aircraft floating in midair.

Description of the issue:
Pilot position in incorrect. I also happens during a flight if you have to into settings, when you resume, your position is once again where you initially started.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
747/787

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Yes

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Everytime

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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  1. Just start a flight

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
NO

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
FS2024

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
RTX4070ti

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
i9 13000
64BG ram

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• I have exactly the same issue

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• YES, IT HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE LAUNCH

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• i ALSO HAVE A BLACK BOX CENTRE OF SCREEN WITH ORANGE LETTER LIKE SOME SORT OF FLIGHT READING, IT FOLLOWS HEADSET AND STAYS IN CENTRE IF VIEW. UNPLAYABALE

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

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Flying outside the 747 cockpit like Santa’s reindeer…

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• Yes.
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• The desciption of the issue of the OP matches mine exactly (in VR)

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
Yes, same issue when I load a 747 in VR

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Pick a 747 and hit Fly Now, you need to be in VR mode to see the issue.

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still same issue with 747 as of SU3 beta

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You’d think they would fix that

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Still broken!

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
•+ Exactly the same as the OP describes for the 787. I’ve tried reloading it, adjusting the camera position, etc, etc and it always reverts to the viewpoint pressed against the cockpit facia. I haven’t tried the 747 yet but it depresses me if this is the same

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Dear Asobo, did you know that this has been reported and broken in VR for 9 months now??? Please fix the problem, Thank you!

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Hi Asobo, this is still BROKEN!! 10 months now,…..

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Yes, have the same issue and I think I filed a bug maybe. Sorta fed up filing as I get criticized for saying something is or is not replicated by me. Anyway, this is definitely an issue. You can get around it by using SHIFT F9 or F10 to get to the IFG or VFR positions.

A related issue is that the VR Toolbar has been changed to take these position moves out.

You can toggle that with ALT + T.

This really makes the 787 unusable unless you do a deep dive into the keyboard settings.

Maybe they took all this out to make the build compatible with some other platform like the PS… we are winding up with the lowest common denominator.

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Keep complaining about this! We’re being ignored.

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I have been doing a lot of 787 flying as I have taken up VR and there are a number of issues with how the cockpit is represented in VR… but the pilot perspective is the priority. I have had the chance to fly the AP on a number of complex approaches in the SF Bay area and generally is is working well, which is what keeps me on this aircraft. The VNAV is tricky and hard to tell from operator error or unique characteristics of different approaches.