I can’t stop vacillating between the 7900X3D & 7950X3D.
I haven’t yet opened my 7900X3D; it can easily be returned in favor of the 7950X3D. Recapping my use case, my goal is to run MSFS at 4K Ultra ~45fps (primarily low Helicopter flying in large cities); but 99% of the time I use the PC for work, with occasional video rendering. I have no doubt that – in my use case – purchasing the 7900X3D over the 7800X3D is a no-brainer (thanks MrTonySM). But the 7900X3D vs. the 7950X3D is a different story; I keep looking at my unopened 7900X3D, and obsessively check Amazon’s prices on the 7950X3D.
With the amount of money I’m already spending on my first build, I say to myself: “What’s another $190?” (paid $460 for the 7900X3D and right now the 7950X3D is $650)… However, I decided on the RTX 4070 TI, so even with the 7900X3D, I think I’m going to be GPU bottle-necked (which is necessary to avoid MSFS stutter). I’m planning to upgrade the CPU and GPU in ~2-3 years; so I’ll probably just stick with the 7900X3D, but am very open to compelling reasons in favor of the 7950X3D.
“There are several benchmarks, which don’t always agree from reviewer to reviewer as to the specific game, that now show the 7900X3D is in fact conditionally better in certain instances at specific games.”
You’re very welcome sir!!! If you can afford it. 7950x3d seems a no brainer. It was for me anyways But it is hard to decifer all the reviews. I don’t have a 7900x3d to make comparison. But, everything I have seen points to. In MSFS, these are your clear cut winners, in order from least to greatest. 7800x3d, 7900x3d, 7950x3d. There has been hints dropped, that the 7900x3d is very close in performance to the 7950x3d. We might be talking single digit fps. Depends on if you’re also looking to future proof for a bit. I’ve already seen the leaks on AMD’s 8000 series claiming a more than 20% performance uplift. 8950x projected to be at 6ghz boost, with a major increase in ipc performance… let’s see what happens. This is all rumour
I read your post MrTonySM… and was – once again – inspired by you. I’m not trying to future proof… I want to change out the CPU & GPU in about 2 years or so.
If all you are going to do is gaming, and not use any external programs along MSFS, then the 7800x3d is fine. I myself bought the 7800x3d at release. The cpu is fine but I also like to fly with external programs (navigraph, pilot2atc, lorby aao, etc). This is where it struggles. I purchased the 7950x3d 2 weeks ago, and am running the same background programs with ease.
Also, what people don’t mention enough. And should. I don’t see MSFS using more than 6 cores, and 4 heavily. When you run prefer cache, and don’t park… those extra 6 cores will come to life for any other apps.
How did the 7800X3D struggle? I run those extra apps too and haven’t seen CPU usage over 15% worst case (hyperthread off). Obviously the main thread maxes its core out to 100% which accounts for 12.5% total CPU usage, so everything else runs in a few % at most and with 7 cores sitting there near idle this CPU has heaps of spare capacity to run other work simultaneously.
Are you using DX12? When I use DX12 with my 5900x, I see at least 13 threads running MSFS, one heavily. I did not have any other apps running other than monitoring app when I took the screen shot.
What do you mean… a mod; in a YouTube video or something?
I wanted hot swappable MVMe SSDs (off-site and on-site clones) – so I built a carbon fiber quick-release modular system. Came out pretty nice… Form, and Function. I’m mixing 2 brands: ROS / ProArt (thus the 7900X3D thanks to you).
Just awaiting the GPU, 2 custom ProArt ARGB items, and a ProArt Etched Logo on Frosted Vinyl. THEN: I have to decide if I’m going to attempt to wire 10 ARGB items and everything else – or hire someone to do it. Uggghhhh.
No way; that’s important – and this is the first time I’ve been educated on this. Really good to know.
If I’d bought the 7800X3D, for this ProArt build – it would have been a disaster… definitely would have been a major identity crisis. I didn’t have peace about the build, until the 7900X3D went on sale – and you nudged me to pick it up. Peace Of Mind ever since.
By this, you’re referring to the BIOS setup instructions you gave me, earlier in this thread; correct?
No dx11, and smt off. DX12 has too many problems I find. I used to be my goto many SU’s ago. More TAA artifacts, runway textures missing. Shifts the balance towards CPU limited more heavily. I have a heck of a time to get boosted from NV reflex where you have to be gpu limited to get that fps boost.
To be fair. I ahould have stated for my setup it wasnt enough. Running all background programs for gauges and for mentioned apps, the 7950x3d suite me better
But it is hard to decifer all the reviews. I don’t have a 7900x3d to make comparison. But, everything I have seen points to. In MSFS, these are your clear cut winners, in order from least to greatest. 7800x3d, 7900x3d, 7950x3d. There has been hints dropped, that the 7900x3d is very close in performance to the 7950x3d. We might be talking single digit fps. Depends on if you’re also looking to future proof for a bit. I’ve already seen the leaks on AMD’s 8000 series claiming a more than 20% performance uplift. 8950x projected to be at 6ghz boost, with a major increase in ipc performance… let’s see what happens. This is all rumour
