PMDG 737 Discussion (PC Version) (Part 1)

[FormerSnail5736]

Just a little off-topic in case anyone ever wondered about the difference between airplane parts and home-simulator parts. We did two 100% manual flights below RVSM airspace that day (no big deal) and on the return flight we brought the spare part with us. I had an idea of how expensive these things are but it’s still impressive. I’m sure most of you will find it interesting. The full flight simulators that we use to get our type rating and to conduct our recurrent training use these real airplane parts too which explains their multi-million dollar price tag too.

It’s interesting to know that when they installed the new part, the engineer who fitted it in was not an avionics guy. When that’s the case, even with the new part in the airplane stays unable to do CATIII dual channel approaches (no autoland). To bring it back up to CATIII capacity, a crew need to conduct an autoland in simulated CATIII conditions and register it in the tech log. It’s not uncommon for us to fly autolands in VMC conditions to stay current. If the engineer who fits the part is also an avionics guy, he can use a function to simulate an autoland right there on the ground (something I didn’t know was possible) and sign the airplane as CATIII.

[mhron]

Could buy a sports car for that MCP

[FaultedBirch573]

Anyone know what the deal is with the HGS control panel on the first officer’s side of the cockpit? It’s non-functional as far as I can tell and why would the first officer have this, since he/she is not provided with an HGS?

[GamingCat2130]

The oncoming PMDG 737-900 deserves a nice clean cockpit

PMDG Boeing 737-XXX cockpit overhaul for Microsoft Flight Simulator | MSFS

But pilots who prefere a nice clean and tidy 737 can of course use this mod for every single one of their PMDG 737 types no matter if it´s the -600 or the -800…
I hope you enjoy.

@FaultedBirch573

Anyone know what the deal is with the HGS control panel on the first officer’s side of the cockpit? It’s non-functional as far as I can tell and why would the first officer have this, since he/she is not provided with an HGS?

Yes this instrument seems to have no function at all and the buttons don´t do anything. Does anyone know how this panel is used? I fly always with HUD on but this panel seems to have no function at all. Will it be implemented later on?

[Ticon652460]

Disagreement between Pmdg and LNM? Or did I miss an update?

I just started planning simple flight-plans to get familiar with navigating so it could be something I overlooked or just don’t know yet. Anyway…

When I create a flight I used to be able to choose the same SID when programming the FMC in the PMDG737 and LNM. Both SID’s matched.
Lately both the (FMC and LNM) departure routes don’t show the same SID’s.

Example: My departure is LFMN (Nice) on runway 22L.
The FMC gives me departure-route LANK7X. (upper screenshot)
LNM shows LANK6X (I don’t mean the highlighted one but the SID in the lower part of the LNM screenshot).

If I’m correct normally the FMC ánd LNM showed the exact same SID’s.

Of course I’m doing something wrong here but I’d like to know what exactly.
Thanks in advance

[FlashedUnicorn1]

The disparity between PMDG and LNM may because your data on LNM would appear to be reflecting previous SID iterations current LNM SIDS shows as per your FMC for 22L

Not sure what version of LNM your running but would appear that SID data is out of date. LNM now uses Navigraph data which may explain it as you may be on previous Nav data wherever that came from in LNM

[Ticon652460]

Thanks for your reply,

If I read you correct it could be my Navigraph data is from a previous version?
I use LNM version 2.6.19 / Navigraph AIRAC cycle 1801

If I go to “scenery library” in the Menu-bar of LNM and chose “Navigraph” I see I ticked option 2 in the sub-menu “Use Navigraph for Navaids and Procedures”. I assume that’s the correct option?

If I’m behind one version of the SID data, is there a way to update it?

[DrVenkman3876]

You’re behind a lot more than 1 version - the current AIRAC is 2210, and it will be replaced by 2211 here in a couple weeks. Now, not everything changes from cycle to cycle, but the issue you’re having is the disparity in whatever LMN is using and the default that comes with the PMDG 737 FMC.

[mhron]

Actually, 2211 should be out tomorrow

[Ticon652460]

@LameLefty

You’re behind a lot more than 1 version - the current AIRAC is 2210

I knew it, that little s… of… . Thanks for the heads-up

@LameLefty

the issue you’re having is the disparity in whatever LMN is using

So how do I un-dispare this ?

@mhron

Actually, 2211 should be out tomorrow

That’s great…But I recon it’s not a matter of updating LNM to be able to use it right?

[BragRaindrop933]

v3.0.44 out now.

PMDG 737-600/700/800 Update to 3.00.0044

0011898: [Systems - Hydraulic] EDP Low Pressure lights come on to late in start (rsrandazzo)
0012029: [AFDS - Pitch Modes] Level change down : provision for FS atmoshpere “bursts” pumping pitch up/down (emvaos)
0012002: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] VC Clipping and assorted finds (vscimone)
0010744: [FMS - Route/Legs Pages] Wrapping ETA and time differences around 0000z (emvaos)
0012006: [FMS/AFDS - VNAV] CRZ phase revival even within geometric descent (emvaos)
0011655: [AFDS - Thrust Modes] Provisions and refinement of A/T speed mode in SU10+ turbulence (emvaos)
0010628: [AFDS - Thrust Modes] New AT SPD mode system (emvaos)
0012005: [External Model - Geometry] Cabin lighting tone down needed after SU10? (jbrown)
0011992: [External Model - Geometry] Pilots not shown on extenral view (jbrown)
0011993: [AFDS - Pitch Modes] Oscilattions when using V/S for descent. (emvaos)
0011996: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Small fap on the ceiling of VC, (vscimone)
0011976: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] VC Vertices cleanup (vscimone)​
additiona: provisions for stability with known SU11 changes.

https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/general-discussion-news-and-announcements/224012-02nov22-pmdg-737-for-msfs-new-updates-released

No tablet/EFB yet but from the man-

“we are mostly focused on the 900 and tablet implementation. The tablet goes into testing this week, and the 900 probably a week from Friday…”

[autopylit88]

And I was on the fence about spending $800 on the MCP for my home cockpit lol

[MetalPlains3097]

■■■■ it about 40 mins into a flight. Might have to do the return leg…

[ScarsStitches]

@BragRaindrop933

0012005: [External Model - Geometry] Cabin lighting tone down needed after SU10? (jbrown)

Yes it was needed, they listened. Much better with this update.

And overall i like this update. Looking around the cockpit seems much more “fluid” than before. The plane feels like it’s dancing on air (and resources).

[MetalPlains3097]

Well I am doing the return flight! feels very smooth so far. Back to Edinburgh from Asturias. It was very gusty when I left, so I am looking forward to experiencing the new handling.

[Ticon652460]

Still a problem with some 737 animations. This also occurred with the previous version.

I installed various official liveries trough the PMDG operations Centre v2.0.1.2174. But only the KLM version seems to have fully functional animated behavior (Flaps, Speedbrakes / Slats and Tail-rudder).
When I select the other liveries (Ryanair, Alaska Airlines) the animations (and functions) don’t work.

Though the Operations Center I already reinstalled these liveries (after deleting them). But I end up with one (KLM) fully functional livery while the other (verified) liveries don’t seem to work.

I’d appreciate to hear if other members have the same problem or I have to dig deeper to find what’s causing this.

[FHU59]

You will have the disparity until you update both LNM and the PMDG database. Do you have a Navigraph subscription? If so you can update both.

[Niffstippels]

So busy flying GA, i really need to take the -600 out for a spin. Love that thing.

[GamingCat2130]

Clean Boeing is happy Boeing!
Now after having my new cockpit overhaul finished (upload of the newest version will be tonight) I made my first Boeing maiden flight from Juneau airport to Ketchikan (PAKT), Alaska.

And it was a good first Boeing maiden flight. It was not possible to lure out all three cats because when switching on the second autopilot the first one always went off, but a single-channel autoland.

06053IYLY11.PDF

I love that new floor. PMDG should have really send someone down there with a toothbrush to polish all these rivets and metal parts, because I had to do all the cleaning.

First some screenshots from the flight, the interesting questions afterwards…

All systems nomimal. My two flight guests back there seem to be happy too.

Absolutely LOVE that vertical awareness display! I can even see the glide path to the airport, and the altitude I should be on the waypoints - PERFECT!!!

Gliding down the glideslope…

Get the cats ready, the weather outside looks like a Cat2 landing

Love the native American style of this airport!

Mulder and Scully have officially arrived and can now begin their investigation about the Saskquatch sightings in this area.

Now a few questions about the Boeing… it seems to be impossible to switch on both autopilots, they just change between right and left autopilot - how is this done to have both activated?

There are two buttons on the autopilot panel, VOR/LOC and APPR APPROACH, which one is pressed first when doing an ILS landing, and it what distance to the ILS sender?

Is it normal that the APP light on the autopilot panel goes out while the autopilot is accurately following the glideslope down to the runway with the diamonds visible on the primary flight display?

When the top of descent came, the Boeing did not started to descent with VNAV and LNAV on on the autopilot. Why did it stay on the same altitude instead of sinking to the RUYOC wapoint? I had to descent manually just like in the Airbus.

Looks like I need some some livery with style, how about an Evers Air Cargo livery…

[Ticon652460]

I do have a Navigraph subscription but when I’m logged in and try to unlock a cycle I seem to need a monthly subscription (10EU?) is that correct or am I trying to login on a classified section of the site?