City Update 11: Northeastern United States 2 is now available as a free download from the in-sim Marketplace for both Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024. Please see the release notes linked below and use this topic for discussion and feedback.
Poll Questions
Feel free to answer these poll questions after you download and experience the new update.
Did you experience any CTDs during this download process? If yes, please respond to this post and let us know more details.
On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, how do you like the new photogrammetry?
On a scale of 1-10, 10 being smoothest, how is your performance/stability in this update? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
Is your performance/stability worse, the same, or better than before the City Update? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, how would you globally rate this update? (This question will be used as a reference between each update)
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It’s a real update, really ? (Game in ultra settings, 4080 super)
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Tbh.. I’m done trying to figure out msfs 2020 compatibility with 2024. I have too much vested in msfs 2020 to continue trying to make this work. The content manager in 2024 is a real mess. Not even the world updates that they do themselves are compatible. And I’m not talking about third party. But Asobo itself.
And here we are putting more city updates for msfs and calling it 2024 compatible. Should Fix what you already have before putting more stuff out.
Most frustrated I have been of any sim or game I’ve played in 40 years.
Congrats.
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Pleased to see Little Rhody getting some attention! See you all at FS Expo!
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Instantly disabled! Using samscene3D. Didn’t even bothered with melted buildings since the beginning of MSFS20.
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Asobo woud rather fix cities they destroyed like zurich instead of adding further half baked content.
Funny that, once again, no one is home at the Marketplace and this City Update is nowhere to be found on the splash page or within New and Exclusive.
I had to dig for it, like the last one.
#remodelthemarketplace
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I just use the search function, which is quicker for me. I’ve already purchased it in this screenshot, so it says “owned”:
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Similarly, I do the World > sort New, but neither of us should have to do this. We didn’t/don’t in 2020.
It’s just silly that they forgot how to run a shop. It’s feels like they fired the humans and hired robots to both design and curate it.
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That’s what I did. But there is still an issue when typing anything with an 'a", the letters get switched around. It doesn’t happen every time but it’s annoying.
I do agree with NixonRedgrave WU’s and CU’s should be predominately displayed at least for a few days after they are released, AND that the Marketplace is messy.
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No handcrafted airports? I thought we were supposed to get some with this update
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Not with a City Update. That happens with a World Update.
As always, thanks for the free update/upgrade 
Generally I think it’s a clear improvement over the old data with this newer tech in use.
Mostly good 3D structures including difficult skyscraper areas.
But there are 3 main topics in my opinion which should be a focus for these city updates:
- bridges - I thougt we were past sandbanks under bridges and cars in the water in FS2024
- floating unconnected scan debris mid air. Isn’t it possible to have an algorithm that checks for structures not connected to the ground, that need to be removed?
One example from Boston (a crippled crane extension mid air):
- high buildings/skyscrapers with glass fronts: they look really really terrbile in Manhattan still
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This has got to be one of the worst “updates” in the history of MSFS2020. I’m intimately familiar with Plymouth, MA, and this update did nothing to improve the scenery. Also, is it Asobo’s goal to cover every inch of the USA with trees? My God, every town and city looks like a thriving forest.
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I noticed changes to Plymouth.
[MSFS 2024] I didn’t check out many areas yet so I concentrated on NYC. While there are clearly now buildings which were previously missing on the PG it feels to me performance and quality are worse.
Prior to the update NYC in general felt surprisingly light on performance considering the size of the city a d amount of traffic around while most buildings looked really sharp - even the containers within harbor areas looked great.
Now many small buildings look melted to me which isn’t that great. However due to the nature of such updates the problems origin might relate to the higher than usual server load for files of this specific area, so I’ll check back after the Expo.
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That won’t change btw. - it’s some kind of a limitation coming from photogrammetry. These buildings are created and textured using aerial images which are stitched together by ai. As these pictures are taken from different angles and at different light conditions they may stretch strangely on such large glass buildings.
The only solution for that (at least this decade) would be to create the buildings by hand and texture them manually, something that takes a huge amount of time in comparison, so that’s more something for add-on packs.
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I have New York City Times installed along with Bijan trees and I am in heaven around the NYC area.
I also flew around Boston and that area is greatly improved IMO.
Photogrammetry is almost always going to look bad if viewing it too close and yes that includes Boston. But I am impressed with most of the photogrammetry areas.
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I’m not seeing any changes to Manhattan, and I have this update installed to my hard drive. Is anyone else having this issue?
Yeah, Bijan trees is a must purchase add on for 2024. Compared with bespoke 3rd party scenery (Samscene covers a lot of this area with their NY City Times and USA Cities Vol 1), the PG city updates are usually much lower quality. I’m not planning on installing this one…
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