[Polls] Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Sim Update 3 Feedback

Decided last night that the sim has probably settled down a bit after the flurry of usage that always follows a large release and jumped into a late night Fenix A320 flight. I say late night but, since I live in Spain, it was prime time usage in the US and I chose US airports to fly. I did a quick flight a day or so after release in a Cessna and experienced fully expected stutters since I cleared out my rolling cache and shaders and it was obvious worldwide usage was through the roof and could clearly see the affects of rebuilding those over complex areas like London. I flew back and forth over London and could see things continually getting better. This was in VR.

So, I decided to give a full test to the sim last night. Created a flight plan from Albuqueque to Phoenix for the Fenix A320. I have a good portion of the FS2024 data downloaded to my computer. Neither of those airports are custom. I ran GSX, Bijan scenery, BATC, Navigraph charts. Started cold and dark in Albuqueque and had a bit of an issue that I don’t blame 2024 for. The jetway was attached but too far forward and half my cockpit was obscured. Restarted at another gate and things were as expected.

From that point EVERYTHING worked smoothly and nearly flawlessly. GSX fueled and boarded the plane with great animations. Flight plan loaded seamlessly. Control interactions were spot on. BATC gave great instructions although the Navigraph chart of the airport seemed odd. I couldn’t find any of the taxiways so I just winged it to get to the right runway. Air traffic seemed logical and smooth. Takeoff was perfect and BATC vectored me direct to a waypoint after a turn out of the airport. Autopilot almost to the runway in Phoenix. I switched to VR once airborne and the view and cockpit were stunning. Weather outside was scattered thunderstorms that showed up on my radar. Clouds were highly realistic. Descent and landing were wonderful without any stutters although there was a slight runway mismatch to the right from the ILS signal. Landed Cat 3 and it put me a little onto the shoulder. The whole Phoenix valley needs some attention so not surprised the airport is not perfect. It always was perfect in the 2004 scenery I created back in the days.

The assigned gate was a bit weird, this area of disconnected jetways but GSX got me through deboarding with some stairs. Someone needs to build a realistic KPHX and surrounding areas for 2024.

Overall the experience was great, in particular the smoothness and graphic quality in both 2d and VR given I was throwing so much stuff at the sim and I have a mid-range PC setup.

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Well, I must be on a different boat in an alien ocean or something cos on my Series X it is looking lovely. The draw distance issues in PG cities are still there. Maybe aa’been away from FS20 for too long or perhaps it is because of the poor graphics in 2024 that I’m enjoying 2020 so much. It is looking unreal, can’t complain, really.

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Same. SU3 is absolutely the worst in terms of visual and performance, unless you fly only around generic airports and AI-gen cities. What were they thinking? Terrible update on Xbox. PC users are facing issues too I’m told with players going from a rock solid 80-100 fps to 30-40 fps with stutters and pauses, along with lots of visual degradation especially during takeoff (no cold start) and on approach. Performance is really bad around Tokyo, NYC, LA, etc.

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My Xbox, which is hardwired to my hub, gets 500mb download and 80mb upload speeds. I bought it a month ago exclusively for MSFS, and all content is downloaded and installed. I usually fly a PC-24 or Longitude in Europe. Nothing major so I don’t understand why I’m having issues. I mean what even is the point of downloading hundreds of gigs of data and it seems to do nothing :thinking:

So in theory at least, you should be getting a much better experience than me. Note of course that I keep photogrammetry off as my internet just can’t handle that. I also only have standard edition so don’t have those aircraft to try unfortunately. But you could always give the A20N a go to see how that gets on

I have that off also and everything set to low :thinking:

It’s definitely the most interesting part, I mean, how the developers managed to downgrade the sim visually and to deteriorate the performance at the same time.

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I’ve got Characters and Aircraft Traffic set medium for quantity and quality but everything else off

Some general feedback:

  • Loading times have increased significantly since installing assets. I’m okay with this, but it’s worth noting nonetheless. Edit: loading times are still way faster than FS20.
  • While the sim is smooth and stable (FSRFG FTW), I’m definitely seeing the reduced quality in ground textures that others are complaining about.
  • The marketplace and library are a pain in the butt to navigate. Whoever designed the interface needs to go back to school.
  • The initial loading process does not respect the music volume setting. I’ve turned music off, yet the music plays during launch. The music stops once the title screen is presented.

Overall, I’m happy with SU3, and I’ve begun taking inventory of my addons from FS20 and migrating or updating for FS24.

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The music setting is the same in 2020. Until you are past the press any button to start page, it uses default settings. Then once you get to the checking for updates page, it loads you settings and reduces the music volume. But I have mine turned down rather than off so maybe with it completely off it behaves differently?

Up until SU3, it respected the setting during launch. FS20 also respects the music volume setting during launch, and it’s always been that way.

Edit: this is ultimately a minor gripe about something that’s not super important. Just a change in behavior I immediately noticed.

A picture tells more then words: @ Jƶrg Neumann: what was about ā€œDigital twin of the worldā€?

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Handcrafted Airport EDVK

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I find this gap very realistic ! :slight_smile:

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One thing I have noticed, my Xbox controller assigned buttons keep getting randomly deleted by the sim. But it’s not a total wipe - it’ll be one or 2 per day at random

With respect, but I don’t find that very fair. Bugs aside, and this is clearly a bug, i don’t think we can hold it against them that the simulated world doesn’t match the actual real world each and every time. We cannot expect them to have a 100% correct perfect representation for every square inch of the literal whole of the world.

What we do have right now is already astounding in its own right, and I don’t think anything like this has ever been attempted before, to this level.

Of the many things we can rightly complain about with this sim and its current state, this feels like it’s not one of them, imo

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Can you provide the ICAO code for this airfield? I’d like to try and replicate on my own system.

This bug is first time reported in 2021

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Maybe Jƶrg is suffering from MS’s decisions even more than we are.

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I finally got to fly the Cessna Longitude my first time! It was a total mess, though—the stuttering was insane on approach. ATC tried to make me fly over the airport at FL45, but I managed to cancel IFR and land it. Can’t believe I didn’t crash :rofl:

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I am still baffled how they managed to introduce these stutters after SU1 only for them to say ā€œWe don’t really know why that’s happeningā€ now.
Base FPS seem to be 40% lower than what I was experiencing in SU1
Stutters at 3rd party airports are still not resolved (Was working flawlessly in SU1)
Photoimagery bleeding through 3rd party addon ground textures is still not resolved

The list of things that have become worse since the launch of the sim is almost endless. The sim is just not enjoyable in it’s current state. I don’t see the point in tweaking stuff, playing around with settings to get a somewhat stable sim when it just worked before. Somewhere deep down in the code there is a huge bottleneck that is causing these problems and I really want them to be solved. The issues are real and annoying, not made up like some people say.

I get that some people are not experiencing these issues. Maybe you’re just flying VFR with default aircraft. However, a ā€œjust live with it, I dont have that problemā€ doesn’t help anyone.

And what amazes me the most is that the sim either works great for some people or not at all for others. There still doesnt seem to be anything inbetween.

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why don’t you use Batc or Sayintentions? Or are you an xbox?