How is this still not fixed? Popout panels are rendered separately as evidenced by the fact that they can work on screens drawn by one GPU while the rest of the sim is rendered by a different GPU, so it makes zero sense that they would stop working when VR is enabled. As the original reporter mentioned, this worked fine in SU9. This really seems like it should be a relatively simple code change to fix. It’s been two years, can this get some attention? Mixed reality and pass through modes are getting more and more popular, this needs to get fixed.
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Is VR such a low priority for Microsoft that they don’t mind alienating those who are pushing the hobby forward?
Anyone with an ounce of imagination can surely see that VR and in particulat VR with decent passthrough is the future. No need to build a room sized sim anymore… just add the hardware you need.. which for many will include instruments on a separate screen for either passthrough or a basic multi-person cockpit.
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Also, this bug report is tagged with “steam”, which could be misleading. I’m on the Windows Store version with the same bug
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Hardware specs:
- Meta Quest Pro VR headset
*Realsimgear G1000 (PFD and MFD)
*G9 Odyssey display
*RTX4080
*Intel i9-13900k
*Asus Z790 A
*64 GB DDR5
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*Loading into a vanilla session of MSFS2020 (non VR mode) popping out the G1000 PFD and/or the MFD, MSFS2020 has no problem refreshing those popped-out windows (on either the monitor itself or on the attached G1000 displays.
*If VR mode is enabled prior to popping out these windows, the pop-out display(s) will appear blank.
*Loading into a vanilla session of MSFS2020, turning on the virtual G1000’s (to display the AHRS/ ADC on the PFD, with Map data/ ancillary data on the MFD), and popping out those displays will continue to update Until the display mode is switched to VR mode, where the popped-out windows will only display the last refreshed window piror to vr mode. Oddy though, I was noticing on the MFD, the low oil pressure state was inverting between Red on White to White on Red much faster (almost as if the polling was hardware locked to the primary display)
This is leaving a thought that there is still a display processing thread active within memory, but because of VR mode, it behaves like a boolean switch. Not sure if the reasoning was an oversight or because of the stereoscopic 3d to 2d projection would be a reference to subordinate display processes/threads (and may cause display issues on other displays).
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the issue appears to NOT have been addressed in SU15…
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Same issue, Mixed Reality requires display of cockpit pop outs to view in pass through feed while flying in VR. On entering VR the pop out displays ( G1000, G3000, G530, ect) no longer get updated but freeze as they were when entering VR.
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Using Mixed Reality on Quest3. Using the TDS app for the GTN-750, the external window of the 750 works fine because it’s a standalone program on the computer with it’s own window, but popping out the MSFS G3 doesn’t work once VR is enabled.
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same issue as described by the others… want to use my homecockpit in pass through mode in VR with my Varjo XR-4 should work…
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Happy to provide abscreenshot, but why should I add something that is already known?
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Please fix this, MS! Request the ability to stream video of pop-out panels to other monitors while in VR (just like X-Plane). Need to see my GPS pop-out panels on my physical GPS screen (i.e., monitor) while in pass-through VR.
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Unfortunately Asobo are more interested in releasing shiny features and content than fixing relatively low vote bugs. That is just modern software development unfortunately. With MSFS2024 on the horizon, there is no way this will be looked at. If it is still broken in MSFS2024, it would indicate to me it is nothing more than a rebadged MSFS2020 with more content.
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After reporting this 10 month ago this issue is still not addressed by Asobo… come on guy… mixed reality is the future, this should work
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I’m have the same problem with the pop out windows. I have the realsimgear g1000’s and the quest 3. I was so excited when passthrough came out but now do to msfs lack of fixing what they broke I can’t use passthrough in VR.
How is this not fixed? It’s been nearly 2 years.
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Yes. Popout panels do not update when using VR.
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Use popup panels then enter VR. The panels just freeze. not updating at all.
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as soon as I go into VR the poped out panels stop working
Just adding on to this, I really hope this is not a bug in MSFS 2024 now
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I have just set up Quest 3 passthrough, and have also found the pop-out panels do not respond in VR. They do show the screen (e.g. 777 MFD), but nothing moves. They work fine when you exit VR.
I also checked with the Pimax Crystal (no passthrough in MSFS 2020), but I can see the pop-out panels don’t work with that headset either.
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One more echoing the problem. Needs fixing as mixed reality is growing.
Have the same issue with frozen popout windows in VR - makes mixed reality unusable. Please fix