Proposed flight altitude in Career Mode too high for airplane

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Description of the issue:
In career mode for a medium cargo mission the proposed flight altitude was too high for the airplane I was flying. I was flying the Pilatus PC-12 NGX and I was told to fly up to 31.000 ft. However going above 20.000 ft resulted in engines not working properly and getting a message that i should decrease to guarantee proper oxygen levels or sth. like that. So I kept flying at 20.000ft but then had to listen to all the radio communication that I should increase altitude to 31.000 ft which was really annoying.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
Pilatus PC-12 NGX

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE: 10% of the missions

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FL31 might be a bit high since the max certified alt is FL30 or 30,000ft. You do however need to worry about pressurizing the cabin. Thats most likely the cause of the messages. People start to need oxygen from about 8,000ft and cabin pressure is usualy kept around 5,000ft.
Turbine engines are (FADEC) electronically controlled and have no issues at those altitudes.

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Same here… Mooney to 17k, PC-24 to 45k… it destroys about every long mission…
this mode is so buggy… incredible

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Same issue on PC.

Career mode incorrectly thinks 208C is a PC-12 on the pre-mission screen, so it assigns me FL440. Which is too high for the PC-12 as well.

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Yes it’s madness. The workaround is to go into the EFB first and change the altitude to something more sensible, and sending the new plan to ATC and Avionics. But that shouldn’t be necessary.

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This works, but agreed, should not be necessary.

A separate bug in and of itself, because if you try that after you’ve already started the mission, your changes will not be committed until you restart the flight.

You absolutely should be allowed to file with ATC after you start the mission.

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I think you can file it after you start the mission, atleast I just did it at a flight, altough before engine startup. But I filed a new plan with lower FL and the mission recognized that. If its any help it was medium cargo, meant for a pc12 probably, so i needed something lower for the caravan. Maybe in other type of missions is not working, or not always.

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For the Cessna Caravan (Cargo Medium missions), the pre-made flight plan always has a cruising altitude of FL 450. This is craziness because the service ceiling of the Caravan is 25,000 ft. You either have to manually edit the cruise altitude and file it to the ATC before every mission, or keep hearing “please expedite your climb to FL 450” for hours on end.

Almost every aircraft I’ve flown in Career mode have completely wrong cruising altitudes set in the EFB before missions. This was clearly never tested beforehand.

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Service ceiling for Cessna 172 is 14000 feet. Mission requires 19000 feet.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
When flying the missions in the Cessna Caravan I am given very high ceilings of FL440 and FL290 which is impossible to achieve in a propeller plane. ATC will nag me to climb. And if I don’t get there I can’t use the ALT N slew feature. So some missions may take 6 hours in a Cessna. How do I force rhe mission to initialize at a lower flight level (if even possible)

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al the time sung medium cargo

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Since you asked how to change filed cruise altitude: When you accepted the mission you can change the altitude in the EFB and file the new plan to the ATC. The mission will update to that and you will be able to skip reaching your filed altitude. If you forgot that and already on the mission, if you file it before engine start, it should still recognize the new plan, but this could be buggy. Alternatively while you are flying you can request to decrease cruise altitude through the ATC via Coms menu (currently maximum 10 000 feet per request, but you can do multiple request to achieve your desired altitude), in this way however, the mission recognizes the new cruise altitude, but you won’t be able to skip the cruise.

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OK I see it now in the EFB. You can edit the cruise altitude to anything you want and then send it to ATC. (You need to scroll down to make those functions visible) . This makes life so much easier as I don’t have time to climb to FL240 at 300 fpm. The missions will pick that new level. Excellent advice by all here. That is why thee boards are so important.

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I’m currently flying a charter mission in a Cessna 172. I’ve been told to climb to 20,000 feet which I know I cannot do because I earlier played a mission that asked me to climb to 15,000 feet and I could just about barely get up there. It worked early in the flight because I could just request 10,000 feet but now I was told once again to climb but I can no longer request a lower flight level. I now have to listen to the controller telling me to expedite my climb to an impossible flight level.

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b-but muh immersion

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Cancel IFR with ATC. then set a sane altitude and press on with pride.

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I hear you. But am also sick of hearing THEM.

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Part of me wants to go full bush pilot into uncontrolled airfields just so I never have to talk to ATC again.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: In Career mode, with Cargo company: I have a new Cessna 208B Grand Caravan. Trying to do my first “Medium cargo” missions. Most of them seem to have flight plans that go at 30,000 ft. But the Cessna maxes-out at 25,000. Examples: Flights originating in LFAM or EGHJ. The ATC is on the radio every 20 seconds saying “please expedite your climb to 30,000” … for five hours. Who can listen to that “expedite climb” message every 20 seconds for five hours? Makes it hard to hear important radio comms. Why is the flight plan at 30,000 for a plane that cannot go that high?

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue: Cessna 208B

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue? On XBox.

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How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? Every time in Career mode, with my Cessna 208B, in Medium Cargo missions that are more than 5 hours in duration. I believe it is all such missions, but I’ve only tried three so far.

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1.In Career mode, with Cargo company: flying a Cessna 208B Grand Caravan
2. Do any “Medium cargo” mission that is over 5 hours duration; Examples: Missions originating in LFAM or EGHJ and heading eastward.
3. Take off and start following the indicated route; note that the flight plans is mostly at 30,000 ft.
4. The ATC is on the radio every 20 seconds saying “please expedite your climb to 30,000” … for five hours.
5. Try to go to 30,000 but the Cessna maxes-out at 25,000 (which is correct; 25K is the max altitude of that Cessna).
6. Impact to user: makes it nearly impossible to fly: who can listen to that “expedite climb” message every 20 seconds for five hours? Makes it hard to hear important radio comms.

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Are you planning the flight properly in the pre-flight hangar screen via the EFB? Are you selecting an appropriate FL in the EFB during the planning phase before flight? Are you sending the plan to the avionics and sending it to ATC too (if you choose to use the broken AI ATC?)

Also I highly recommend taking a few seconds to find the comms volume on the radio stack. It says ‘vol’ on all the channels if you look.

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No I did not alter the default flight plan. I am a casual player on Xbox. I generally do all my actions through the XBox controller or Hotas controller, and use the default flight plan. I do not have a mouse attached to my XBox, and hence it is nearly impossible to manually do anything (such as manually move controls within the cockpit; or do EFB work). That said, I enjoy the game and like doing “no skip” flights.

These missions I’m trying to fly are in Career mode: medium cargo, and my plane is a Cessna 208B. The default flight plan should be consistent with that scenario.

Don’t blame the victim: Certainly, the $70 game should work fine for casual XBox players that simply want to fly the default flight plan that is supplied for the Cargo Missions, no?