Pushback Cart Does Not Connect to GA plane

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

The pushback cart will not move and connect when using the ALT + P pushback shortcut. The cart moves a few feet, then stops. You can try again and the same thing will happen. At an airport without any ground services in the ATC menu, it looks like you can never push back properly. It may be plane dependent as well. I see this on the Beech G36 regularly. I tried once with the C172 and pushback movement was immediate, even thought the cart didn’t attach.

Coordinate or location of issue: Tried at MUGI and KOKB. Same at both.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Every time with the G36.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Load in Beech G36 at airport (MUGI or KOKB). ALT + Q for Quick Preflight. SHIFT + C to enter cockpit.

  2. Turn off parking brake.

  3. ALT + P to start pushback. Note minimal cart movement, no pushback on plane.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using: VKB NXT and STECS. VelocityOne rudder. Keyboard/Mouse.

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12? N/A

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX 3090

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? i5-13600K, 64GB RAM.

MEDIA

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What kills nose wheel steering in MSFS2024?
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Same issue here on ps5, even with assigned keybind for that pushback toggle. Same whe usong the coms menu

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The default shortcut is SHIFT-P.

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I think that’s inconsequential. I’m ALT + P, which might be the norm for the Keyboard 2024 Tranversal.

Either way, I don’t think the key bind choice matters here.

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Out of curiosity, which plane were you using?

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MSFS 2024. I have the same issue. With the JF PA28 Warrior, when I hit Alt P, the cart moves around a bit but doesn’t hook up to the aircraft. I tried with the default C172, and instantly the aircraft pushed back without a cart.

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Thanks for confirming. I was surprised when I searched around that there didn’t appear to be a pushback bug open with this specific behavior, but I guess it is not just me. There must be something specific with certain planes.

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Is the parking brake off? I had the same issue once with a C172. If I remember correctly it needs to be off for the cart to connect.

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Yes,park brake off

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I did a little more messing around, and picked an assortment of GA planes (plus my 3rd party P180) and tried this multiple times.

All tests were KOKB, Parking 28 (Ramp GA Small). Used default liveries.

Did Quick Pre-flight (where applicable) and entered cockpit. Turned off parking brake. Went to external view and did ALT + P for pushback.

:white_check_mark: = Plane began pushback immediately (irrespective of if cart was there or if it attached)

:cross_mark: = Cart just rolled around, maybe spun once, never connected, never pushed back.

L-39 Albatross: :cross_mark:

King Air C90: :white_check_mark:

C172 G1000: :white_check_mark:

Cessna C185: :white_check_mark:

Cirrus SR22T: :cross_mark:

Cub Crafter NX Cub: :white_check_mark:

Piaggio P180: :cross_mark:

Piper PA28: :cross_mark:

Beech G36: :cross_mark:

Beech G58: :cross_mark:

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It would seem this bug is indirectly linked to another issue I’ve been struggling with which is intermittent nose wheel steering.

With the cart not correctly connecting visually, you don’t know if the sim thinks the cart is actually attached. If the sim thinks it’s attached, your nose wheel steering is disabled.

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https://flightsim.to/file/853/pushback-helper-v2-0